A new factory named Clean Plus just appeared in the market, we talked about it before, some people say it is Clean and they are back to the business, some people say it is not the original Clean Factory, so the hottest thing we are discussing about is whether the new Clean Plus is still the same previous Clean Factory. Now Clean Plus has released Datejust, YachtMaster and Daytona, I think they will publish more watches next.
Clean Factory has been closed for a while, people are still looking for Clean watches, I do hope Clean Plus can make the same quality watches as Clean, or even better quality. But after checking the Datejust from Clean Plus, I found their quality is still not the same as that of Clean.
There are two Datejust watches above, the left one is from Clean Plus, the right one is from Clean.
First, check the crystal, it is lower on Clean Plus, while on the right Clean Datejust, the crystal stands a little higher.
Second, the date wheel is different. Check the date font on the left Datejust from Clean Plus, it is a little thicker.
Third, the Rolex Crown logo on the buckle is different, I like the one on the right watch from Clean.
Fourth, the clasp engraving is different. On the top, it is the clasp on Clean. The engraving is bigger and deeper. On the bottom clasp, the letter ‘O’ is more like a digit 0.
Clean Plus uses DD3235 movement, this is good, as far as I know, they also use DD3235 in the Titanium YachtMaster and DD4131 in Daytona.
Conclusion
Clean Plus is not the original Clean Factory. Take the Datejust as an example, some watch parts like date wheel and bracelet on Clean Plus are different from that of Clean. Currently the best option for Datejust is still VS V2.
This is the last time for me to discuss Clean Factory on my blog, like I mentioned on my previous article, I said Clean will not be back, yes, this is true. So, do not trust anyone in this industry who said he can get you the watches from Clean, or you will be scammed.
There are many clock malls in Zhanxi of Guangzhou, they had a very good business before, there were a big traffic in the past, everyone came there to get good luxury products such as watches, bags, bracelets, perfume, etc. In 2016 or 2017, a person came to Zhanxi and sold watches, at the beginning, he made the replicas of Nomos, at that time, the workshop he opened even did not have a name. Later he made Roger Dubuis Excalibur and Blancpain Fifty Fathoms, so the first product in Clean’s history is not the green Submariner 116610LV. But facing the competition of Noob in replica Blancpain Fifty Fathoms, he could not make enough money by just selling Nomos, Roger Dubuis and other unpopular watches.
He wanted to make Rolex, but at that time, Noob and AR are the boss in this area, it is hard to compete with them, however, the Rolex Submariner from both Noob and AR also has flaws, especially the bezel of the hulk Submariner 116610LV, which does not have correct green color, the pearl is too white and the bezel markers easily become black, he noticed these issues and turned to make the ceramic bezel, on the first batch of the ceramic bezel made for the Submariner, the platinum filling on the markers finally does not discolor anymore, at this time, Clean was born and only made watch parts like ceramic bezel and dial.
After being promoted, many people bought the Submariner from AR Factory, and then replaced its bezel and dial with the bezel and dial from Clean. After selling the watch parts for a period, he made the Submariner by himself, and he sold the watch under the name “ZZ”, but the Submariner from ZZF still could not compete with AR and Noob. At the same time, Clean also made the bezel for the Daytona.
ZZ continued to improve their Submariner and updated it to V3 edition, with SH3135 movement inside, but they are facing another strong competitor VS Factory, whose Submariner comes with better DD3135 movement inside. At that time, Noob has updated the Submariner to V12 and AR has updated it to V3, ZZ could not compete with Noob, AR and VS.
In April 2021, Noob got raided and closed, AR and VS were also affected. People had no where to get the Daytona, some dealers who still had Noob Daytona watches in stock sold them at high prices, watch fans needed to pay over $1110 to get a Noob Daytona, this is a ridiculous price, but people had no choice. Clean seized the opportunity and inherited the DD4130 movement from Noob, in the end of 2021, Clean published the Daytona with DD4130, the price is a bit higher than previous Noob Daytona but finally returned to be normal. After being published, their Daytona watches were immediately sold out, Clean succeeded. During the closing period of AR and VS, the stock of ZZ Submariner also sold out very quickly, after that they sold both Daytona and Submariner under name Clean. During that period, Clean also got the DD3135 movement and updated their Submariner.
One success builds upon another. Next Clean developed the DD3285 movement and published the super clone GMT-Master II, this become another best seller, now Clean nearly dominated the market of super clone Rolex, VS has been back to the business and still had a certain market share because they have DD3235 movement, many people bought VS Datejust. So in next years before the closure of Clean, it was the competition between Clean and VS in Rolex field, before Clean completed the replacement of the SH3235 with DD3235 in their Datejust, this factory got raided and closed. Now, who is the boss in super clone Rolex field? Absolutely…, you know it.
I always think Clean has the best Daytona replicas, unfortunately they have been closed forever. Now the best factory to get a super clone Daytona is VS, most dealers and reviewers said their Daytona is better than Clean, I do not think so, Clean has some details that are better finished. And there is another factory that has good quality Daytona replicas, we almost forget it, this factory is BT.
A new factory has appeared in the market recently, it is UFO, which is a tacky name. They made the replica Daytona 126500, some readers here have asked me about this factory, now I told you do not buy the Daytona from UFO, they claimed that they use the clone 4131 movement with free-sprung balance, that’s a good selling point, but no one knows the stability of this movement, by the way, I have checked the finish on the watch, it is not as good as that of VS Factory Daytona, not to mention in comparison with Clean. And their price is too expensive. Please check the pictures of the UFO Daytona below.
Now VS Factory holds the majority of the market share for the Daytona, while BT Factory holds a small market share for the Daytona. VS Factory is still improving the quality of the Daytona, mainly in increasing the weight of the watch, last time several months ago, I already introduced the first batch of the Daytona watches with increased weight on my blog, please check at https://www.susanreviews.com/2025/03/24/vs-factory-heavy-weight-daytona/. Today, I will make a summary of the Daytona replica watches which VS Factory is selling.
First, the Daytona with 4801 movement, which has the most affordable price, please check the movement picture below, it is a naked 4801 without any decoration.
Second, the Daytona with 4130 movement made by VS Factory. There are totally nine models. The 116500 Daytona white and black models, the weight is about 140 grams. The 116518 yellow gold, 116519 gray dial and116506 ice blue three models have V1 and V2 increased weight options. The V2 edition only has weight gained on the case.
Third, the Daytona with 4131 movement made by VS, please check the pictures below. We can see that the Daytona models with rubber band have been upgraded to V2, which has gain weight on the case. These Daytona replicas, whose genuine models are made with precious metals, now have been upgraded to V3, the V3 edition has gain weight both on the case and bracelet. I measured the weight of the V3, please check the last picture, it is about
Conclusion
1.VS has three types of Daytona selling at the same time, the one with 4801 movement, the Daytona with regular weight, the Daytona with increased weight.
2.For the latest V3 edition, VS Factory adds weight both on the case and bracelet, but the watch feels very comfortable when wearing on hand, not like the Daytona made by other factories that has been added too much weight on the case, the case head is too heavy, causing it to feel like it’s slipping down when wearing.
3.Up to now, no one has reported any cases of the peeling off issue on the increased weight Daytona from VS Factory.
I do hope VS Factory continues to improve the dial quality of their Daytona, such as the hands finish, or a new factory will appear in the market to replace Clean’s position to compete with VS, I would like to see.
Last time, I introduced the GMT-Master II Pepsi from VS Factory in article https://www.susanreviews.com/2025/06/16/vs-factory-gmt-master-pepsi/, I said some advantages of their GMT-Master II when being compared with the one from Clean, but yesterday, I found my opinions are wrong, later I will explain this. Today, I will show you some new GMT-Master II watches which VS factory just published, they include Batman, Pepsi and Sprite, please see pictures below, the oyster bracelet version and jubilee bracelet version available.
The first GMT-Master II Sprite with green dial, only AR and THB made it before, but they use SH3285 movement, if you want the best one, I recommend this one from VS Factory, they use DD3285 movement, and Clean Factory does not make this watch.
Now, back to the thing I mentioned in the first paragraph. When VS Factory firstly published the Pepsi GMT-Master II, I made a short review and thought it is much better than the one made by Clean. Just yesterday, I realized I shouldn’t think this way. In promoting their GMT-Master II, VS indeed claimed their GMT-Master is better than the ones made by other watch makers in the market, a lot of watch distributors also reviewed this watch in the videos to explain what advantages it has in every aspect when being compared with the one from Clean, they said VS GMT-Master II is much better than the one from Clean. Now I do not agree with this view.
First, both GMT-Master II Pepsi watches from Clean and VS are close to the genuine watch. This is what I think right now. Clean uses an older genunine watch to make the replica, while VS uses a newer genuine watch to make the replica, VS said they refer to the designs of the new watch published in 2022. I do not know what are the differences between the old version and new version on the same watch published by Rolex. However, some watch dealers said VS GMT-Master Pepsi is closer to the genuine watch than Clean version, this is totally wrong.
Second, Clean Factory has been making the GMT-Master replicas for years, VS just started to produce them, can VS surpass Clean right from the start? Impossible. Many dealers said the GMT-Master II Pepsi has surpassed the one made by Clean in all aspects, can you believe this nonsense?
Third, just like I said before, to get the DD3285 movement, VS will share part of their DD3235 movements with Clean, now some Datejust watches from Clean factory being equipped with DD3235 movement has appeared in the market, see the pictures of Datejust and movement below. Between Clean and VS, looks like they’ve got some under-the-table deal going on, like saying VS GMT-Master II is better than Clean is allowed in this industry.
Is this the first titanium watch made by Rolex? It is a popular watch and many people have asked if there is a super clone in the market. The first factory that made its replica is EW, several months ago, this factory was shut down, everyone knew the reason. Later a new manufacturer named EWE apppeared, does it have some relationship with EW? Maybe a new factory or still EW. Any way, before Clean, everyone chose this titanium YachtMaster Rolex from EWE. TW+ also made the replica, there are many factories using TW name, such as TWA, TW and TW+, I do not know what is the relationship between them, but they are not involved in manufacutring super clones, they provide cheap to middle quality replicas. For this titanium YachtMaster replica, EWE uses a Hangzhou 3235 movement, which has nearly 72 hours power reserve and is very reliable. The replica from TW+ is equipped with a Shanghai 3235, I am not sure if they are using the updated version released later. But in my memory, the Hangzhou 3235 used by EWE is good.
Back to the titanium YachtMaster 226627 made by Clean, it is fully made with titanium, so the weight is very close to that of genuine watch. With the Clean sticker on the bracelet and plastic cover, the replica has a weight of 109.6 grams, the genuine watch weighs about 107.4 grams. The replica is made with grade 5 titanium, it looks not that bright like stainless steel, this material is very hard, so it is a bit difficult to complete a very good finish on the case and bracelet, but Clean does a job work. Please look at the following pictures, on the enlarged picture of the bracelet, some brushed lines look coarser, but from a viewing distance, this is unnoticeable. On genuine watch, the brushing is also more obvious, but I think every brushed line has the same thickness. I do not think it will be a flaw for this replica watch.
On the bracelet, the engravings on the clasp are correct. But I found one tiny flaw on the clasp when it is closed. Look at the picture, the left metal piece stands slightly taller than the right metal piece, they are on the same horizontal line on the genuine watch. I do not know if all replicas of this watch made by Clean have this flaw, or just the one in my hand.
The case has a thickness of 11.89mm, less than 12mm. The tube of the pin that connects each link of the bracelet uses ceramic material, Clean claims this is also a feature on the genuine watch. The ceramic tube is highly scratch resistant and after a long time of wearing, the links can still locks firmly, you will not feel the bracelet becoming loose.
The movement inside is a SH3235, which is widely used by Clean in the Datejust, it is the new version of SH3235, Clean said it is also 72 hours of power reserve, but I said this is not true in another post. Well, because this movement has also been widely used by other factories, so I think its stability is acceptable.
The bezel insert is black ceramic in matt finish, which is in contrast with the bright polishing on the markers. The matt finish on the genuine is more obvious, while on the replica, it is more refined.
Overall, the finish of the Clean version absolutely better than that of the EWE model, but Clean also has a much higher price. Whether you buy from Clean or EWE, it will be a right decision.
In the past five years, whether in material, finish or movement, the replica watch industry has made a big huge progress, do you agree?
Today, I will give a brief introduction of the movements used in the super clones. These movements were different from the ones used in the replicas made eight or ten years ago. Now, people are knowledgable in this field, they know every factory, their background and their famous watches models, they also know which movement is more trusted. The movements in the market are usually made by the movement factories in three places of China, which are Dandong, Shanghai and Hangzhou.
First, the movements from Dandong. Too many, there are 4130, 4131, 3235, etc. Many people know this movement factory because of the 4130 movement firstly used by Noob Factory. Now, the 4130 is being used by a lot of factories, including Clean, VS, BT, New Noob. Dandong 4131 is being used by VS and Clean. The Dandong 3235 is only used by VS Factory. Dandong 4130 is the most successful movement developed in replica watches industry, it is also the most stable chrono movement. It seems like every movement from Dandong is very stable, except the 925 and 938.
The best chrono movement in replicas – Dandong 4130
The two pictures below show the Dandong 3235 movement, also called VS 3235 or Custom VS 3235, it is only used by VS Factory, you can find this movement in their Datejust, 41mm Submariner, Oyster Perpetual, YachtMaster, Sea-Dweller. This is the best clone 3235 movement in the market, known for its high stability and long power reserve that is up to 72 hours.
Best clone 3235 movement- only used by VS
One movement from Dandong should be avoided, that is the 938, which is equipped by the Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Q1372520. This replica is mainly made by two factories, AZ and ZF. Do not buy this watch, this movement will easily have issues during use. Almost every replica of this watch sold by the two factories will have movement issues.
938 movement, developed by APS, we should not buy the replica with this movement.
Another movement from Dandong is also not too stable, it is the 925, which is equipped by Jaeger LeCoultre moon phase. This replica is made by APS and ZF, a very popular watch, but its movement is even not as stable as Dandong 7750.
SL6000 movement from Dandong. Equipped in the replicas of IWC Portuguese 7 Days PR and Big Pilot, currently used by AZ and ZF. This movement is nice and has a power reserve of more than 50 hours. The Portuguese 7 Days Power Reserve from ZF is also the replica I highly recommend, very classic.
8500 and 8900 from VS Factory, also developed by Dandong. The replicas of Omega Seamaster 150m and Seamaster 600m from VS are using these two movements, which make VS Factory famous all over the world.
P.9000. Only used on Panerai by VS Factory. 8500 and P.9000 these two movements are the cornerstone of development of VS Factory.
Next, let’s talk about the movements from Shanghai. First, it is the SH3135. There are two generations, the first generation has been abandoned, now all watches are using the second generation of SH3135. This movement has the same high stability as that of Dandong 3135.
SH3235. Except VS, other factories are all using this movement, for example, Clean uses this movement in their Datejust, 41mm Submariner and Sea-Dweller. This movement’s stability is ok, but the power reserve is around 45 hours. If you want a Submariner from Clean Factory, I do not suggest you buy the 41mm model, the 40mm Submariner with Dandong 3135 movement is a better choice, it is more cost-efficient.
SH3235
Shanghai 7750. This is not a very good movement, but it is being widely used in the replica watches. In the past, Z Factory random used Shanghai 7750 and Dandong 7750 in their IWC Portuguese Chrono replica watches, people who got the watch with Shanghai 7750 was unlucky because this movement is not stable.
In the last, it will be a movement from Hangzhou. The movement is 72a0, which is being used in the Datejust and YachtMaster of EWE Factory. EWE modified its look to Rolex 3235. This movement is great, its power reserve is up to 60 hours. The Blancpain 50 fathoms from Z Factory also uses this Hangzhou movement.
Last time, in my article “Is it the right time to buy the Le Mans Daytona 126529LN from Clean?”, I said this Clean Le Mans Daytona has a false 24-hour chronograph function, many watch fans said I was wrong, so yesterday night I got another Le Mans Daytona watch from Clean to make a test of its 24-hour chrono again, I pushed the chrono button and let it run for one hour, later, the small hand on the 9:00 subdial came exactly at 1:00, please check the following picture, it is right between 24 and the 2:00 black marker. This means Clean Le Mans Daytona indeed has a real 24-hour chrono. But I did not test for 24 hours.
However, why was the last test result different? The reason may be the movement in last watch is not the latest SH4132, which means very few pieces in last batch may have been mistakenly installed with the old version SH4132 movement. So, if you want to order this Daytona from Clean, before shipping, please ask your supplier to test the chrono to ensure it is a real 24-hour.
No. Do you think they have? Some of you may have searched on google and get some results with “clean” name on the website address, but none of these websites are opened by Clean. Clean Factory has been in this industry for a lot of years, they have a much bigger business than before and need to deal a lot of things each day with their distributors, so there is no need to open a website to earn that little money, by the way, opening a website online will also increase their risk, it is not worth. Some people said they have bought good quality replicas of Day-Date from Clean Factory, but as far as I know, Clean does not make Day-Date Rolex watches. I have checked that website, the Day-Date indeed has “Clean” sticker on the bracelet, but that’s a scammer, those people just wanted to use Clean reputation to earn money, they a lot of watches under the name of “Clean”. At the same time, you can also find a lot of websites of other factories, such as VS, Noob, ZF, they are all fakes.
Next, I will introduce two latest news in the market. First, BBR Factory is back. Just in last week, BBR announced that they will be closed forever, but they just back to the business again with another name BBS. Now you can buy their RM35-01 and Audemars Piguet Royal Oak tourbillon watches.
The second news is that VS is going to produce the heavy weight version of Daytona, please check their promotional copy.
No. We know Clean Factory just published this watch, from the announcement to availability, it lasts for several months, now it finally came out, and many watch fans think the best one is from Clean and they are going to purchase it. I do not think it is the right time. We should wait or you can still buy it from the Q Factory.
QF is the first factory to produce this Daytona, they have the stainless steel and yellow gold models, while Clean currently only makes the stainless steel one. And QF also offers two options in weight, regular and heavy. The heavy weight version is about 176 grams, I mentioned on my blog before, QF added extra links on the bracelet to gain weight. It is not worth to spend much more money on the heavy weight version. After being twice upgraded, the SH4132 movement in QF Le Man Daytona can track 24-hour chrono on the sundial at 9 o’clock.
For this Daytona, it is the first new model from Clean after our holiday, when promoting this watch, Clean saying it is also 24-hour chronograph at 9:00, I have made a test to see if it is real 24h, pushed the chrono button at 2:00 and let it run, one extact hour later I found the small hand has come to the first black marker on the 9:00 subdial, which means it is not real 24-hour chrono.
The weight of the Clean Daytona 126529LN is about 137 grams. Clean does not offer gain weight version. Looking at those pictures below, the black dial seems to have no sunburst finish, on QF 126529LN, there is slight sunburst treatment.
There are two rumors about this Daytona in the market, one is QF uses 18K white gold plating on the case, that’s not true, the case is still 904L stainless steel made. The other is this Daytona uses DD4132, no, actually it is SH4132, both QF and Clean use SH4132.
My conclusion:
If you really like this Daytona and want to buy a super clone, I suggest you buy the regular weight version made by QF. Currently Clean is not a better choice, perhaps they will improve next.
First, it is the 24H Le Mans Daytona, made by Clean Factory, actually Clean already announced their plan to make this watch before our new year holiday, now it finally came out. They said the watch has better sunburst finish than the one on Q Factory, well, really necessary to compare them side by side some day, the latest version from QF is V8 and Clean does not have the heavy weight version. On the Clean Le Mans Daytona, the subdial at 9 o’clock is 24-hour chronograph counter like genuine watch, the movement inside is a super clone 4132.
The second new model is Panerai 1518 from VS Factory.
