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VS Factory Datejust V2

There are no news about Clean Factory in the market, I do not think they will come back, if you found someone on the internet said that he can still get watches from Clean, please be careful, even the band and case back of the watches he show you have the same sticker as previous Clean Factory, please do not trust him, it is easy to get the factory’s sticker in the market. After the closure of Clean, two things happened next in the market, first, VS did a promotion on their Datejust watches in stock, the Datejust prices were slightly lowered down. Second, Q Factory published the increased weight version of Datejust, this is the first time for Q to produce Datejust, in the past, their famous products were Day-Date and Daytona. From these two things, we can see that Q and VS have started to compete the market share of super clone Rolex, I think more and more factories will enter the race later, after all this is a big cake left by Clean. Our watch fans hope that these factories can improve the watches, not just increasing the prices. And VS Factory just did an improvement on their Datejust, the improvement was firstly made on three Datejust 41mm models, black, blue and green with jubilee bracelet, the Datejust watches with other dial colors and other case size currently have not been applied with this improvement.

It is the first time for VS to made the improvement on their Datejust, I think this action from VS is related to the closure of Clean Factory, they badly want to be the number one in super clone Rolex field. This time, VS claims that they made several improvements, but I think the biggest and most obvious one lies in its bezel, on the new V2, the flutes on the bezel appear more three-dimensional, the entire bezel has a brighter and more reflective finish, VS claims that they use platinum coating on the bezel. By the way, the entire watch now has a weight of about 132.3 grams, which is 4 grams heavier than the old V1, so the V2 almost has the same weight as that of the genuine watch.

The pictures of V2 green Datejust II from VS.

Let’s talk about Q Factory, they also published the increased weight version of the Datejust, they have more models to choose, but the weight is too heavy, which is 148 grams, this is even heavier than the genuine watch. By the way, Q Factory claims that they use DD3235 in their Datejust, but this is not the real DD3235, it looks slightly different from the genuine DD3235 used by VS.

The weight of the Q Factory Datejust.

The difference between the 3235 in Q Factory Datejust and the DD3235 in VS Factory Datejust.

Please check the pictures below to see the difference, and you will know if the Datejust you are buying is equipped with a real DD3235 movement.

The right watch is from VS Factory and it uses real DD3235 movement. Please check the second picture, look at the red wheel, the left 3235 movement has a bright red wheel, while on the DD3235 movement, that wheel has a dark red color. This is the most obvious difference.

Movements

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In the past five years, whether in material, finish or movement, the replica watch industry has made a big huge progress, do you agree?

Today, I will give a brief introduction of the movements used in the super clones. These movements were different from the ones used in the replicas made eight or ten years ago. Now, people are knowledgable in this field, they know every factory, their background and their famous watches models, they also know which movement is more trusted. The movements in the market are usually made by the movement factories in three places of China, which are Dandong, Shanghai and Hangzhou.

First, the movements from Dandong. Too many, there are 4130, 4131, 3235, etc. Many people know this movement factory because of the 4130 movement firstly used by Noob Factory. Now, the 4130 is being used by a lot of factories, including Clean, VS, BT, New Noob. Dandong 4131 is being used by VS and Clean. The Dandong 3235 is only used by VS Factory. Dandong 4130 is the most successful movement developed in replica watches industry, it is also the most stable chrono movement. It seems like every movement from Dandong is very stable, except the 925 and 938.

The best chrono movement in replicas – Dandong 4130

The two pictures below show the Dandong 3235 movement, also called VS 3235 or Custom VS 3235, it is only used by VS Factory, you can find this movement in their Datejust, 41mm Submariner, Oyster Perpetual, YachtMaster, Sea-Dweller. This is the best clone 3235 movement in the market, known for its high stability and long power reserve that is up to 72 hours.

Best clone 3235 movement- only used by VS

One movement from Dandong should be avoided, that is the 938, which is equipped by the Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Q1372520. This replica is mainly made by two factories, AZ and ZF. Do not buy this watch, this movement will easily have issues during use. Almost every replica of this watch sold by the two factories will have movement issues.

938 movement, developed by APS, we should not buy the replica with this movement.

Another movement from Dandong is also not too stable, it is the 925, which is equipped by Jaeger LeCoultre moon phase. This replica is made by APS and ZF, a very popular watch, but its movement is even not as stable as Dandong 7750.

Replica Jaeger LeCoultre Moon Phase 1368430

SL6000 movement from Dandong. Equipped in the replicas of IWC Portuguese 7 Days PR and Big Pilot, currently used by AZ and ZF. This movement is nice and has a power reserve of more than 50 hours. The Portuguese 7 Days Power Reserve from ZF is also the replica I highly recommend, very classic.

8500 and 8900 from VS Factory, also developed by Dandong. The replicas of Omega Seamaster 150m and Seamaster 600m from VS are using these two movements, which make VS Factory famous all over the world.

P.9000. Only used on Panerai by VS Factory. 8500 and P.9000 these two movements are the cornerstone of development of VS Factory.

Next, let’s talk about the movements from Shanghai. First, it is the SH3135. There are two generations, the first generation has been abandoned, now all watches are using the second generation of SH3135. This movement has the same high stability as that of Dandong 3135.

SH3235. Except VS, other factories are all using this movement, for example, Clean uses this movement in their Datejust, 41mm Submariner and Sea-Dweller. This movement’s stability is ok, but the power reserve is around 45 hours. If you want a Submariner from Clean Factory, I do not suggest you buy the 41mm model, the 40mm Submariner with Dandong 3135 movement is a better choice, it is more cost-efficient.

Shanghai 7750. This is not a very good movement, but it is being widely used in the replica watches. In the past, Z Factory random used Shanghai 7750 and Dandong 7750 in their IWC Portuguese Chrono replica watches, people who got the watch with Shanghai 7750 was unlucky because this movement is not stable.

In the last, it will be a movement from Hangzhou. The movement is 72a0, which is being used in the Datejust and YachtMaster of EWE Factory. EWE modified its look to Rolex 3235. This movement is great, its power reserve is up to 60 hours. The Blancpain 50 fathoms from Z Factory also uses this Hangzhou movement.

Clean Factory Replica Rolex Sea-Dweller Single Red 126600

New super clone 3235 movement by Clean

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Just two weeks ago, there was a rumor in our market that Clean will use Dandong 3235 movement in their Datejust and 41mm Submariner products, this is a fake news. Dandong 3235 movement will never be given to Clean, at least not now, this is the only advantage VS has in competing with Clean in Rolex field, perhaps Clean will get the Dandong 3235 when VS factory is forced to be closed.

Clean has been always using Shanghai 3235 movement in their Datejust and 41mm Submariner, and they just improved this movement and the new movement will be used by them soon. Please check the movement pictures in the end of the article. The left one in the picture is new Shanghai 3235 movement just developed by Clean. The right one is Dandong 3235 movement from VS. Did you notice the difference? There are extra golden engravings added on the auto rotor. By the way, Clean claims that the new Shanghai 3235 will have a power reserve of about 70 hours, which is very close to that of Dandong 3235. I watched some reviews and they said the power reserve time is true, but some reviewers also said even Dandong 3235 only has a power reserve of about 60 hours.

Once the stocks of Datejust and Submariner with old Shanghai 3235 movement being sold out, Clean will start to use the new version of Shanghai 3235 movement.

The development of Clean factory

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I already talked a lot about Clean in my previous reviews of replica watches made by this factory, to know Clean factory better, please read this article.

Before the birth of Clean, the best Submariner replicas were made by Noob and AR, these two factories now have been closed. At that time, the Submariner made by Noob and AR has two big flaws, first, the tone of the bezel markers will fade, second, the green color is not correct. Someone who sold replica watches in the market saw a business opportunity that will earn a lot of money by making a better ceramic bezel for the Submariner. In 2019, he made one green ceramic bezel and sold it under name of “Clean”, immediately the green ceramic bezel became hot in the market, especially among the watch fans who did custom-made jobs, it is the first green ceramic bezel that has the closest green color to gen and has no-fade bezel markers. He earned some money by selling these bezels. At that time, Noob have been selling 4130 Daytona for some time, but their bezel on the Daytona is not very good, so a few months later, Clean made a ceramic bezel for the white Panda Daytona 116500LN. And at the same time, Clean published their first generation of Submariner and sold under name of “ZZF”. At that time, Clean could not compete with Noob and AR in the field of Submariner, later, Noob and AR also developed the ceramic bezel which they claimed won’t fade.

In the end of 2020, Clean announced the release of the GMT-Master replica watches with clone 3186 movement, but they did not sell them until the summer of 2021. In the whole year of 2019, it is the competition of Submariner between Noob, AR and ZZ, later, VS factory also published the Submariner with the latest Dandong 3135 movement, this movement is more stable and has fewer issues than the movement equipped in ZZF Submariner, even the Submariner from VS did not have the same good finish as the Sub from ZZF, especially on the hulk Submariner, the green color on the ceramic bezel is not as good as that on ZZF 116610LV, but with better movement and better quality control as well as higher reputation, VS still beat Clean and became the second big supplier of super clone Rolex Submariner, Noob occupied the biggest market share. Clean’s ZZF Submariner still not hot.

In the development process, Clean updated all their Submariner with the second generation of Shanghai 3135 movement, from that time, in the sales of Submariner, they decided not to use name “ZZF” any more, but use name “Clean” directly. The intense competition between Clean and VS started. During their competition, there was an interesting thing happend, VS found the factory that always supplied ceramic bezel for Clean. Later, VS developed Dandong 3235 movement and firstly equipped in the 42mm YachtMaster, and then equipped it in their 41mm new Submariner and Datejust. After seeing the fast development of VS, Clean took an action and developed a Shanghai 3235 movement, whose decoration is not as beautiful as Dandong 3235 movement of VS, the power reserve of Shanghai 3235 movement is about 45 hours, which is shorter than 72 hours on Dandong 3235 movement. At this time, Noob and AR could not follow the steps of VS and Clean, although they still have a large amount of customers.

In March or April of 2020, I can not remember exactly in which month, Noob and AR were forced to be closed because of the raid, and then VS was also closed. Now only Clean survived. Before this raid, Clean was absolutely not as famous as Noob, AR and VS, but the three actions Clean made next made them become the boss in the market. First, they accepted all orders of Dandong 4130 movement that were only supplied to Noob before, Clean started to sell the Daytona with Dandong 4130 movement in the end of 2021, their Daytona is much better than the one made by Noob before. Second, Clean decided to use the Dandong 3135 movement in their Submariner. From that time, Clean completely beat VS in 40mm Submariner. Third, about in 2022, Clean developed Dandong 3285 movement and continued to improve their GMT-Master replicas. Clean now is the boss in super clone Rolex, and VS can compete with Clean just because they still own the Dandong 3235 movement. Clean made a very quick success, besides the super quality, the luck also played an important role, I explained the “luck” factor in Clean’s development process in another post at https://www.susanreviews.com/2023/09/29/why-did-clean-factory-get-a-success-so-quickly/.

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