Movements

In the past five years, whether in material, finish or movement, the replica watch industry has made a big huge progress, do you agree?

Today, I will give a brief introduction of the movements used in the super clones. These movements were different from the ones used in the replicas made eight or ten years ago. Now, people are knowledgable in this field, they know every factory, their background and their famous watches models, they also know which movement is more trusted. The movements in the market are usually made by the movement factories in three places of China, which are Dandong, Shanghai and Hangzhou.

First, the movements from Dandong. Too many, there are 4130, 4131, 3235, etc. Many people know this movement factory because of the 4130 movement firstly used by Noob Factory. Now, the 4130 is being used by a lot of factories, including Clean, VS, BT, New Noob. Dandong 4131 is being used by VS and Clean. The Dandong 3235 is only used by VS Factory. Dandong 4130 is the most successful movement developed in replica watches industry, it is also the most stable chrono movement. It seems like every movement from Dandong is very stable, except the 925 and 938.

Dandong 4130
The best chrono movement in replicas – Dandong 4130

The two pictures below show the Dandong 3235 movement, also called VS 3235 or Custom VS 3235, it is only used by VS Factory, you can find this movement in their Datejust, 41mm Submariner, Oyster Perpetual, YachtMaster, Sea-Dweller. This is the best clone 3235 movement in the market, known for its high stability and long power reserve that is up to 72 hours.

Dandong 3235 Movement
Best clone 3235 movement- only used by VS

One movement from Dandong should be avoided, that is the 938, which is equipped by the Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Q1372520. This replica is mainly made by two factories, AZ and ZF. Do not buy this watch, this movement will easily have issues during use. Almost every replica of this watch sold by the two factories will have movement issues.

Replica Jaeger LeCoultre Q1372520
938 movement, developed by APS, we should not buy the replica with this movement.

Another movement from Dandong is also not too stable, it is the 925, which is equipped by Jaeger LeCoultre moon phase. This replica is made by APS and ZF, a very popular watch, but its movement is even not as stable as Dandong 7750.

Replica Jaeger LeCoultre Moon Phase 1368430
Replica Jaeger LeCoultre 925 Movement

SL6000 movement from Dandong. Equipped in the replicas of IWC Portuguese 7 Days PR and Big Pilot, currently used by AZ and ZF. This movement is nice and has a power reserve of more than 50 hours. The Portuguese 7 Days Power Reserve from ZF is also the replica I highly recommend, very classic.

8500 and 8900 from VS Factory, also developed by Dandong. The replicas of Omega Seamaster 150m and Seamaster 600m from VS are using these two movements, which make VS Factory famous all over the world.

P.9000. Only used on Panerai by VS Factory. 8500 and P.9000 these two movements are the cornerstone of development of VS Factory.

Next, let’s talk about the movements from Shanghai. First, it is the SH3135. There are two generations, the first generation has been abandoned, now all watches are using the second generation of SH3135. This movement has the same high stability as that of Dandong 3135.

SH3235. Except VS, other factories are all using this movement, for example, Clean uses this movement in their Datejust, 41mm Submariner and Sea-Dweller. This movement’s stability is ok, but the power reserve is around 45 hours. If you want a Submariner from Clean Factory, I do not suggest you buy the 41mm model, the 40mm Submariner with Dandong 3135 movement is a better choice, it is more cost-efficient.

Shanghai 3235 Movement
SH3235

Shanghai 7750. This is not a very good movement, but it is being widely used in the replica watches. In the past, Z Factory random used Shanghai 7750 and Dandong 7750 in their IWC Portuguese Chrono replica watches, people who got the watch with Shanghai 7750 was unlucky because this movement is not stable.

In the last, it will be a movement from Hangzhou. The movement is 72a0, which is being used in the Datejust and YachtMaster of EWE Factory. EWE modified its look to Rolex 3235. This movement is great, its power reserve is up to 60 hours. The Blancpain 50 fathoms from Z Factory also uses this Hangzhou movement.

Hangzhou 3235
Hangzhou 3235

Clean Factory Replica Rolex Sea-Dweller Single Red 126600

Everyone is expecting Clean factory can make more new replica Rolex watches, because the ones they make are the best in the market. In last week, Clean published new replica Rolex, which is the Sea-Dweller 126600, we also call it Single Red Sea-Dweller, before Clean, there was only one factory that has made it, it is VS, and now the release of the Clean version will confuse buyers again, which one they should get? VS or Clean? The 126600 replicas from both watch makers are super clones, Clean has better details on the bezel, dial and bracelet, while VS has a better movement. That’s the truth,, Clean and VS are the direct competitors in replica Rolex field, they made a lot same watches with close quality, but here people always think Clean has better details, VS has better movement, but in Daytona replicas, Clean is the best, both in details and movement.

The case is measured exactly in 43mm in diameter and has a thickness of 15.2mm, the same size of the original watch, it is said that the helium escape valve set at 9 o’clock on the case has a real function, that’s amazing, because no factories could do that before, well, I think nobody wants to do such a test, it needs to take a deep dive. The bracelet is very good, not only made with 904L stainless steel, but it also has the same structure as that of genuine. Now Rolex replicas from those big famous factories, their bracelets are much better than before, we saw obvious improvements having been made in recent years.

The movement is Shanghai 3235, it is the new version of Shanghai 3235 movement which Clean has upgraded two months ago, the new Shanghai 3235 movement has a power reserve of nearly 70 hours, but if you really concern the movement more when buying a replica Rolex, I suggest you choose the one with Dandong 3235 movement from VS, its the movement whose stability can be compared with Dandong 4130.

Clean Rolex Single Red Replica
Clean Rolex 126600 Replica
Clean Rolex Sea-Dweller Replica
Clean Rolex Sea-Dweller 126600 Replica
Clean Rolex Helium Valve
Clean Rolex Case Back
Clean Rolex Bracelet
Clean Rolex Clasp

New super clone 3235 movement by Clean

Just two weeks ago, there was a rumor in our market that Clean will use Dandong 3235 movement in their Datejust and 41mm Submariner products, this is a fake news. Dandong 3235 movement will never be given to Clean, at least not now, this is the only advantage VS has in competing with Clean in Rolex field, perhaps Clean will get the Dandong 3235 when VS factory is forced to be closed.

Clean has been always using Shanghai 3235 movement in their Datejust and 41mm Submariner, and they just improved this movement and the new movement will be used by them soon. Please check the movement pictures in the end of the article. The left one in the picture is new Shanghai 3235 movement just developed by Clean. The right one is Dandong 3235 movement from VS. Did you notice the difference? There are extra golden engravings added on the auto rotor. By the way, Clean claims that the new Shanghai 3235 will have a power reserve of about 70 hours, which is very close to that of Dandong 3235. I watched some reviews and they said the power reserve time is true, but some reviewers also said even Dandong 3235 only has a power reserve of about 60 hours.

Once the stocks of Datejust and Submariner with old Shanghai 3235 movement being sold out, Clean will start to use the new version of Shanghai 3235 movement.

New Shanghai 3235 Movement
Dandong 3235
Shanghai 3235 vs Dandong 3235

The development of Clean factory

I already talked a lot about Clean in my previous reviews of replica watches made by this factory, to know Clean factory better, please read this article.

Before the birth of Clean, the best Submariner replicas were made by Noob and AR, these two factories now have been closed. At that time, the Submariner made by Noob and AR has two big flaws, first, the tone of the bezel markers will fade, second, the green color is not correct. Someone who sold replica watches in the market saw a business opportunity that will earn a lot of money by making a better ceramic bezel for the Submariner. In 2019, he made one green ceramic bezel and sold it under name of “Clean”, immediately the green ceramic bezel became hot in the market, especially among the watch fans who did custom-made jobs, it is the first green ceramic bezel that has the closest green color to gen and has no-fade bezel markers. He earned some money by selling these bezels. At that time, Noob have been selling 4130 Daytona for some time, but their bezel on the Daytona is not very good, so a few months later, Clean made a ceramic bezel for the white Panda Daytona 116500LN. And at the same time, Clean published their first generation of Submariner and sold under name of “ZZF”. At that time, Clean could not compete with Noob and AR in the field of Submariner, later, Noob and AR also developed the ceramic bezel which they claimed won’t fade.

In the end of 2020, Clean announced the release of the GMT-Master replica watches with clone 3186 movement, but they did not sell them until the summer of 2021. In the whole year of 2019, it is the competition of Submariner between Noob, AR and ZZ, later, VS factory also published the Submariner with the latest Dandong 3135 movement, this movement is more stable and has fewer issues than the movement equipped in ZZF Submariner, even the Submariner from VS did not have the same good finish as the Sub from ZZF, especially on the hulk Submariner, the green color on the ceramic bezel is not as good as that on ZZF 116610LV, but with better movement and better quality control as well as higher reputation, VS still beat Clean and became the second big supplier of super clone Rolex Submariner, Noob occupied the biggest market share. Clean’s ZZF Submariner still not hot.

In the development process, Clean updated all their Submariner with the second generation of Shanghai 3135 movement, from that time, in the sales of Submariner, they decided not to use name “ZZF” any more, but use name “Clean” directly. The intense competition between Clean and VS started. During their competition, there was an interesting thing happend, VS found the factory that always supplied ceramic bezel for Clean. Later, VS developed Dandong 3235 movement and firstly equipped in the 42mm YachtMaster, and then equipped it in their 41mm new Submariner and Datejust. After seeing the fast development of VS, Clean took an action and developed a Shanghai 3235 movement, whose decoration is not as beautiful as Dandong 3235 movement of VS, the power reserve of Shanghai 3235 movement is about 45 hours, which is shorter than 72 hours on Dandong 3235 movement. At this time, Noob and AR could not follow the steps of VS and Clean, although they still have a large amount of customers.

In March or April of 2020, I can not remember exactly in which month, Noob and AR were forced to be closed because of the raid, and then VS was also closed. Now only Clean survived. Before this raid, Clean was absolutely not as famous as Noob, AR and VS, but the three actions Clean made next made them become the boss in the market. First, they accepted all orders of Dandong 4130 movement that were only supplied to Noob before, Clean started to sell the Daytona with Dandong 4130 movement in the end of 2021, their Daytona is much better than the one made by Noob before. Second, Clean decided to use the Dandong 3135 movement in their Submariner. From that time, Clean completely beat VS in 40mm Submariner. Third, about in 2022, Clean developed Dandong 3285 movement and continued to improve their GMT-Master replicas. Clean now is the boss in super clone Rolex, and VS can compete with Clean just because they still own the Dandong 3235 movement. Clean made a very quick success, besides the super quality, the luck also played an important role, I explained the “luck” factor in Clean’s development process in another post at https://www.susanreviews.com/2023/09/29/why-did-clean-factory-get-a-success-so-quickly/.