Last time, in my article “Is it the right time to buy the Le Mans Daytona 126529LN from Clean?”, I said this Clean Le Mans Daytona has a false 24-hour chronograph function, many watch fans said I was wrong, so yesterday night I got another Le Mans Daytona watch from Clean to make a test of its 24-hour chrono again, I pushed the chrono button and let it run for one hour, later, the small hand on the 9:00 subdial came exactly at 1:00, please check the following picture, it is right between 24 and the 2:00 black marker. This means Clean Le Mans Daytona indeed has a real 24-hour chrono. But I did not test for 24 hours.
However, why was the last test result different? The reason may be the movement in last watch is not the latest SH4132, which means very few pieces in last batch may have been mistakenly installed with the old version SH4132 movement. So, if you want to order this Daytona from Clean, before shipping, please ask your supplier to test the chrono to ensure it is a real 24-hour.
Just in last week, VS Factory announced that they will produce the heavy weight version of 12xxxx sereis Daytona, now these watches available with seven different models, five models with rubber band, two ice blue Daytona with stainless steel bracelet.
Are these heavy weight Daytona good? My answer is yes. It is not the first time for VS Factory to make the weighted Rolex, do you still remember the 42mm YachtMaster made by them? It is still one of the best-selling super clone Rolex watches, the latest version has come to V3, the weight of that YachtMaster is about 148 grams, which is very close to that of genuine. About the new heavy weight Daytona from VS Factory, please check the pictures I share below, the ones with rubber band, each has a weight of about 138 grams.
Every one who wants to buy the following Daytona may have one concern, will the case of the watch peel off? Will the electroplating layer of the case peel off? VS say no, and I trust them. I think there are a large amount of people who have bought the weighted YachtMaster 226659 from VS in past several years, VS also uses tungsten steel in the case of this watch, but does the case of this watch peel off? There are still no complaint about this on this YachtMaster, every watch fan seems to be very satisfied with the quality. So I trust that VS Factory also has done a good work on the newly released weighted Daytona.
Before VS, both QF and APS have made the weighted 12xxxx series Daytona, another factory named Gold also made the weighted Daytona before, but I do not know if Gold makes the new 12xxxx series Daytona. The version of QF has come to V10, APS Factory also continues to improve the quality, but both watch makers use Shanghai 4131 movement, this is not good, after all Clean has already decided to change to Dandong 4131 movement, which is more recognized. QF Daytona is about 155 grams, APS Daytona is about 151 grams, the inner material is tungsten steel and the outside is wrapped with stainless steel, if not processed well, the case will become darken as time goes by and some even peel off. The weight of the VS Daytona, you can see below, is about 138 grams, which is still about 20 grams lighter than that of genuine watch, but VS Factory claims that the case has the same weight as that of genuine, the only weight difference lies in the band and buckle. So, I offer you a solution, you can buy a Daytona from VS, and buy a genuine watch band with buckle to replace on, and finally you will get a perfect watch.
I do feel happy when seeing the new weighted Daytona coming out from VS, this is a great chance for them to win more market share in competing with Clean. The price they offered is also very reasonable, it is almost the same price as the Clean Daytona with regular weight, you know, the weight of Clean Daytona is about 108 grams.
I have an idea, why VS does not do real white gold or yellow gold wrapping on the case? That will make the case never peel off and won’t cost too much, if they do this, many watch fans would not mind to spend more to get such a super clone.
In the following, I post the pictures of each weighted Daytona of VS.
No. Do you think they have? Some of you may have searched on google and get some results with “clean” name on the website address, but none of these websites are opened by Clean. Clean Factory has been in this industry for a lot of years, they have a much bigger business than before and need to deal a lot of things each day with their distributors, so there is no need to open a website to earn that little money, by the way, opening a website online will also increase their risk, it is not worth. Some people said they have bought good quality replicas of Day-Date from Clean Factory, but as far as I know, Clean does not make Day-Date Rolex watches. I have checked that website, the Day-Date indeed has “Clean” sticker on the bracelet, but that’s a scammer, those people just wanted to use Clean reputation to earn money, they a lot of watches under the name of “Clean”. At the same time, you can also find a lot of websites of other factories, such as VS, Noob, ZF, they are all fakes.
Next, I will introduce two latest news in the market. First, BBR Factory is back. Just in last week, BBR announced that they will be closed forever, but they just back to the business again with another name BBS. Now you can buy their RM35-01 and Audemars Piguet Royal Oak tourbillon watches.
The second news is that VS is going to produce the heavy weight version of Daytona, please check their promotional copy.
No. We know Clean Factory just published this watch, from the announcement to availability, it lasts for several months, now it finally came out, and many watch fans think the best one is from Clean and they are going to purchase it. I do not think it is the right time. We should wait or you can still buy it from the Q Factory.
QF is the first factory to produce this Daytona, they have the stainless steel and yellow gold models, while Clean currently only makes the stainless steel one. And QF also offers two options in weight, regular and heavy. The heavy weight version is about 176 grams, I mentioned on my blog before, QF added extra links on the bracelet to gain weight. It is not worth to spend much more money on the heavy weight version. After being twice upgraded, the SH4132 movement in QF Le Man Daytona can track 24-hour chrono on the sundial at 9 o’clock.
For this Daytona, it is the first new model from Clean after our holiday, when promoting this watch, Clean saying it is also 24-hour chronograph at 9:00, I have made a test to see if it is real 24h, pushed the chrono button at 2:00 and let it run, one extact hour later I found the small hand has come to the first black marker on the 9:00 subdial, which means it is not real 24-hour chrono.
The weight of the Clean Daytona 126529LN is about 137 grams. Clean does not offer gain weight version. Looking at those pictures below, the black dial seems to have no sunburst finish, on QF 126529LN, there is slight sunburst treatment.
There are two rumors about this Daytona in the market, one is QF uses 18K white gold plating on the case, that’s not true, the case is still 904L stainless steel made. The other is this Daytona uses DD4132, no, actually it is SH4132, both QF and Clean use SH4132.
My conclusion:
If you really like this Daytona and want to buy a super clone, I suggest you buy the regular weight version made by QF. Currently Clean is not a better choice, perhaps they will improve next.
First, it is the 24H Le Mans Daytona, made by Clean Factory, actually Clean already announced their plan to make this watch before our new year holiday, now it finally came out. They said the watch has better sunburst finish than the one on Q Factory, well, really necessary to compare them side by side some day, the latest version from QF is V8 and Clean does not have the heavy weight version. On the Clean Le Mans Daytona, the subdial at 9 o’clock is 24-hour chronograph counter like genuine watch, the movement inside is a super clone 4132.
The second new model is Panerai 1518 from VS Factory.
I think it is Clean Factory. Just in the beginning of our Chinese New Year holiday, Clean had decided to replace the movement with Dandong 4131 in the 12xxxx series Daytona, few people knew this news at that time, and now in the Clean 126500 Daytona models, the movement has been Dandong 4131, which is exactly the movement used by VS Factory. And for the newly released Daytona, Clean will also use this movement. When the Dandong 4131 firstly came out, I thought VS will become a strong competitor for Clean, because this movement was developed by VS, but now the situation has changed, Clean decides to use the Dandong 4131 movement now, VS lost the only advantage. Since the birth of the Dandong 4131 movement, watch fans seems to have a high recognition with the Daytona made by VS, the 12xxxx series Daytona made by VS must have been more popular than the one from Clean, otherwise, Clean would not change the movement. So, for VS Factory, a major opportunity to catch up with Clean in Daytona area has been lost, the only chance. Several years ago, it is exactly such type of an opportunity that makes the Clean Factory what it is today.
People will say VS Factory has a better price than Clean, but for those who are really looking for super clone Daytona watches, they do not care the price, they do not mind spending $50 or $100 more to get one in better quality. As far as I know, VS Factory not only has a better price, but also send one extra rubber band for each Daytona.
There is no need to mention the other two factories BT and ZF, BT seems to have disappeared, no body talks them now. So today if you are asking me the best place to buy a super clone Rolex Daytona, I will say Clean. Today, I will share some pictures of the new Daytona which Clean Factory just published.
Before posting the pictures of the new Daytona, there is a movement comparison picture I want to share first, the left one is the Shanghai 4131 which Clean used before, now both Clean and VS are using the Dandong 4131 in the right, you can see the difference.
The bezel has correct engravings whose thickness is very close to that of genuine watch. Some watch fans do care the thickness or shape of every letter of the engravings “UNITS PER HOUR”, I think Clean makes the best, VS also has the same finish, this is not the big difference between the two factories.
The hour hand and minute hand have very good polishing finish on the edge, even you check very close, no burr can be found. Every hour makrer also have very smooth edge. Each watch has an unique serial number engraved on the inner bezel.
The dial finish is a big advantage of Clean Daytona, on the three dial pictures above, the sunburst finish on the main dial and small dials is very good. Clean Factory always focuses on the finish of the details.
On the Daytona with black rubber band, the clasp is new, the golden model has Au750 engraving. The extension locking system is more convenient to operate. The full stainless steel Daytona still using the old clasp. By the way, the buckle coming out from the factory is separately put in a plastic bag, not installed on the watch.
The competition in the clone Rolex Day-Date drives these factories crazy, they are making the Day-Date heavier and heavier, today, I am going to introduce the Day-Date made by CBD Factory, the biggest selling point of their Day-Date is “Original Weight”, which means each Day-Date from them has the same weight as that of original watch.
Before CBD, the big three factories in cloning Day-Date are GM, Q and THB. GM is the earliest factory that makes the Day-Date with increased weight, the weight on the latest version now has achieved 175 grams, GM is still the factory that I recommend for you to buy a Day-Date because their price is the most cost-efficient one among the three.
I do not know the background of CBD, may be a new factory, but mostly likely it is just a new name which an old factory uses, like the Q, which is used by GM to produce higher end Day-Date at more expensive prices. The latest Day-Date made by Q Factory weighs about 185 grams and has 28 sections of links on the bracelet.
About THB, it is owned by APS. The weight of THB Day-Date is more than 190 grams, which is about 193 grams for each watch and has 31 links. Q Factory added more links on the bracelet to increase weight, but THB added extra three links on basis of the Day-Date from Q.
Having compared the Day-Date between Q and THB, if you want a yellow gold model, choose THB, if you want to buy a rose gold one, go with Q.
Finally let’s talk about the CBD. They offer two versions, one has a normal length bracelet, the other has a longer bracelet. The pictures below show the former version. The stainless steel model from CBD is around 202 grams, the golden model from them is 207 grams. This factory not only has Day-Date, they also have Daytona. The bracelet on the CBD Day-Date has a regular length, which has not been added with extra links, but the thickness of the links has been increased, so the entire weight of the watch is greatly increased. By the way, the inner material of the case and bracelet is tungsten, and the outside of the watch uses 904L stainless steel, this is also one part of the reasons why CBD Day-Date so heavy. The Day-Date from CBD is being sold very well, and their price is cheaper than the Day-Date made by THB.
2024 is an important year both for our watch makers and watch fans, we welcomed a lot of new models that have been made with breakthrough watch-making technology. The absolute protagonists in last year are VS and APS, we do not deny that Clean still occupies the largest market share in Rolex field, but VS has already caught up, and APS indeed brought us many surprises. Hope they can release more super clones in future.
1.Clean Factory V3 GMT-Master II Pepsi
For this GMT-Master II Pepsi, it has been improved by Clean Factory for two times, now the latest version is V3. Upon V2, the biggest improvement lies in its ceramic bezel, it is said that the color has been corrected to look closest to that of genuine, while some persons still like the bezel color on V2, still a bit controversial, however, there are still a large amount of watch fans chose to buy this V3 from Clean. By the way, I also only recommend Clean if you want super clone Rolex GMT-Master.
2.VS Factory Daytona 126500
For the new 12xxxx series Daytona, VS Factory has the best movement, Clean has the most complete collection. Since the last upgrade VS has made on hands of 126500, the sales of their Daytona 126500 suddenly improved. This Daytona 126500 from VS is equipped with a super clone 4131 from Dandong, which is supposed to be better than the Shanghai version used by Clean.
3.Clean Factory Daytona 116518
With a yellow gold case, ceramic bezel and black rubber band, this Daytona is one of the best-selling Daytona replicas from Clean. For the sales of Daytona in the market, Clean still occupies the biggest market share, the competition between VS and Clean in this area is still fierce. Actually, every Daytona made by Clean can be put onto this top ten list, they are really perfect clones.
4.Day-Date Heavy Version
I put this watch here just because the heavy version of Day-Date Rolex is really popular, in the past year, many people were asking the weight of a Rolex they were going to buy. And today in Day-Date field, more and more people are participating in the production of heavy versions of Day-Date Rolex replicas, including GM, QF, K, CBD, THB, etc., customers are also more confused than before. Well, currently I recommend two watch makers, GM and THB. GM is the earliest factory that makes the heavy version, they have price advantage, THB has a high price, but they use super clone 3255, the finish is better.
5.PP Factory Nautilus 5712 V3
The 5712 made by PP or Z has been upgraded to V3, with super clone 240 movement and new clasp. We can see that Nautilus moon phase 5712 from PP is very popular in the market, many dealers provide extra service to upgrade its dial with SW Dial and Hands, just like they do on Nautilus 5711 from 3K.
6.VS Factory Grey Datejust with Jubilee Bracelet
You can buy this Datejust from VS or Clean, both versions are very good. I more recommend Clean version before, but modded watches are very hot today, more people buy this Datejust from VS Factory and then made some modifications, for example, replacing its bezel, dial and hands with the bezel, dial and hands from genuine, this is a great idea, and this won’t cost you too much. The super clone DD3235 movement allows watch fans to to this job.
7.APS Factory RM055
Richard Mille has been very hot in the past two years, APS Factory made big improvements on the RM replicas, especially on the model RM055. This RM055 soon became the best seller in Richard Mille field once being published by APS.
8.APS Factory AP 15407
More AP watches can be put in this position, such as 15400, 15500 and 15720 from APS, but people seemed to be paying more attention to the AP 15407 in past year, since that, APS made a big improvement on the balance wheel of this watch. Many watch fans are still not satisfied yet and seeking for trusted source that could add double working balance wheel, it can be done, but too expensive.
9.QF Daytona Le Mans
QF is the watch maker that produced this Daytona, they provide two versions, regular weight version and heavy weight version. I do not suggest you buy the heavy weight version, because they added extra links to increase the weight. By the way, Clean Factory will also publish the Le Mans Daytona soon.
10.3K Factory Nautilus 5711
This watch deserves a more forward position, it is a very popular watch in modded watch market, many people bought this watch from 3K, replacing its dial, hand and date wheel with SW Dial, Hand and Date Wheel, it seems like more and more people are accepting this modded watch now.
There are a lot of other watches that were also sold very well in the market, especially Rolex watches, there are too many, Submariner, Datejust, Daytona, they can even make a top 10 or top 20, every Rolex coming from VS and Clean should be a super clone, no doubt about this. Every one has their own top 10, I can not include every best seller in this list.
THB just published the V2 edition of the Audemars Piguet 15407, there is only half one month since they publish the V1 edition last time. On the V2 edition, there is a big improvement, which is made on the end of the central second hand. On V1 edition, the second hand is all straight, while on the V2 edition, the end of the second hand is a bit oval-shaped that looks closer to that of genuine watch.
Another improvement lies in the Daytona 126500 from VS Factory. Actually VS Factory published the replica Rolex Daytona 126500 months ago, you can think this is the latest V2 edition. The improvements made on the axis of the hands set, the end of the hour hand and minute hand is also updated. The axis of the hands set is not sunken like the Daytona from other watch maker. The end of the hour hand and minute hand, each edge is more straight, only with a much smaller round angle now. VS Factory will send one 10x magnifier to you to observe these details. To buy the new 12xxxx series Daytona replicas, I think VS Factory is a better options now, the Dandong 4131 movement from them is really a big advantage, by the way, VS Factory wanted to do things for customers, now we can see what action Clean Factory will take next.
Every replica watch is not perfect, even it is a super clone made by these big factories. Have you purchased any replica watch from Clean, VS or APS? The Daytona from Clean is considered to be the best one, VS makes the best Panerai, APS has a very good finish on AP 15400. But if you have ever purchased one of these watches, you will find none of them are perfect, every watch has flaws. For one or two flaws on a certain model, an apartment or factory will research and produce a better watch part, some dealers will get such type of watch parts to replace the original ones on the watch they got from Clean, BT or VS. What they did is to make the replica to be closer to perfection, certainly the price will be also higher. Is it necessary to do this? I do not think so. For example, some dealers will get a Pepsi GMT-Master Rolex watch from Clean, and replace its sapphire crystal with another sapphire crystal with better transparence from Deep Crystal factory, I do not think you need to do this once you have bought a GMT-Master from Clean, changing one crystal can not achieve an ideal effect, but if you want to replace several watch parts, that will cost a lot of money. Some dealers even said they can source genuine watch parts to install for you, the price is much more expensive.
Today, the replica watch I want to talk is a GMT-Master II with meteorite dial, only one factory in the market makes this watch, C+ makes this watch, but the best one is not made by C+. The movement installed by C+ is Shanghai 3285, after being improved at last time, but it still can not be compared with the Dandong 3285 movement. To get this watch with Dandong 3285 movement, you need to order one Pepsi GMT-Master II from Clean and one meteorite dial from RB factory, then replace the original Clean dial with the RB meteorite dial, then finally you will get one Pepsi GMT with Dandong 3285 movement, but this version will have a higher price than the one directly made by C+.
C+ is a good alternative for watch fans who want a good clone GMT-Master Rolex with much affordable price. This factory has been in the market for a long time, but if you have a trusted source to get a GMT-Master from Clean, I still suggest you buy the Clean version. For this GMT-Master II Pepsi, I have shown pictures from both watch makers, C+ uses the same V3 blue/red ceramic bezel as Clean, the dial is also from the same RB factory, the biggest difference between them lies in the movement, but I think Clean has a better finish on the bracelet. By the way, for this Pepsi GMT-Master, you can also order the V2 edition from Clean, which is a bit cheaper than the V3.
