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BBF 5711

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BBF has published the replica of Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711 for some time, I introduced their replica Nautilus 5711 before, they got the super clone 324 movement and made some improvements, for example, the dial color is closer to that of the genuine, the engravings on the movement plates are deeper. 3K Factory has not yet taken any action regarding these, this factory has been remarkably low-key in recent years, after all they have earned a lot because having kept the exclusive usage of 324 movement for many years. Just days ago, BBF made another improvement on the dial, I made a comparison between the old version and the new version, please check the pictures below.

BBF 5711 Picture Comparison

The left one is the old version BBF published before, the right one is the new version BBF published days ago. The difference only lies in the dial. Please look at the letterings “PATEK PHILIPPE” and “GENEVE”. On the old version, the “PATEK PHILIPPE” and “GENEVE” are placed on two separate grids, while on the new version, the logo is trapezoidal, the two characters are centered in the groove between the grids. The pictures say everything. The font also looks slightly bigger.

The second difference is the grids, which become slight narrower on the new version. Please check the date window. On the old version, the bottom edge of the grid is parallel to the bottom edge of the date window.

On the new version, the bottom edge of the date window extends slightly beyond the bottom edge of the grid.

New Version Date Window

These differences are not flaws, actually genuine watches also have had these differences on different versions.

This Nautilus 5711 is a very hot replica watch, many customers bought it from 3K before and made some modifications by replacing its dial and date wheel, now I think the one made by BBF is very good enough, but the case still has one place that can be improved. The “eagle’s beak” feature at the end of the lugs is not pronounced. Many people care about this feature, before OME factory made this part very well, but they disappeared, it is said that they could not get the movement and produce this watch. Too bad. I made a comparison on the 5711 between OME and PPF, please check at https://www.susanreviews.com/2025/04/28/nautilus-5712-ome-vs-ppf/, you can better see the lugs’ difference here.

BBF 5711 Lugs
The lugs on the BBF 5711

There are two approaches to deal with this defect on the case of the BBF, first, some watch masters in the market can polish this place very well, they do not charge too much. Second, you can pay extra to buy a CNC case and replace, but this case is very expensive.

Datejust

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A Rolex Datejust is a must-have watch, its design is simple, yet timeless, to attend a formal occasion, a Rolex Datejust is necessary to make you look more mature and refined. In replica watch industry, you are looking for the best replica Rolex, I also highly recommend a Datejust, I thought Submariner is the best replica, but now I think it should be Datejust, it does not have the same hard-to-copy bezel as the Submariner, which is a common issue for the replicas. On a Datejust, especially the one made by VS Factory, every detail has become perfect from outside to inside movement. Now, for the people who are finding 41mm Datejust, I must say VS Factory makes the best ones.

The appearance of Clean Plus has convinced many that Clean has returned, actually they are only using some parts that were used on Clean watches before, not all of them, and they have not tracked down all the suppliers that produced watch components for Clean in the past, but Clean Plus is quietly making improvements on their models, for example, the end links of the bracelet is now more solidly attached to the case, not that flexible on the first batch of Datejust they released. I think Clean Plus watches are also very good, this factory will be a strong competitor to VS in future.

Currently one of the hottest replica watches is the V2 Datejust from VS, now with the new-arrival Datejust with grey Diamond dial, they have seven models, please check the following pictures.

VS Datejust V2 Green
VS Datejust V2 Green Rome
VS Datejust V2 Gray
VS Datejust V2 Gray Diamonds
VS Datejust V2 Blue
VS Datejust V2 Blue Rome
VS Datejust V2 Black

I introduced the V2 Datejust from VS Factory before, please check my post at https://www.susanreviews.com/2025/08/18/vs-factory-datejust-v2/. There are two important differences between V1 and V2, which lie in the weight and bezel finish. For the new gray Datejust with diamond markers, VS Factory claims that they use moissanite on the hour markers, the moissanites are visually very similar to real diamonds. The weight of this diamond Datejust is 134 grams, Clean Plus also has this Datejust, whose weight if 129 grams.

Diamond Datejust VS vs Clean Plus
The date font is thicker on the Datejust from Clean Plus.
Clean Plus Clasp

The clasp engraving on Clean Plus, it is “ORV”, the same as that on VS. But the engraving is too shallow.

VS Clasp

On VS Clasp, the engraving is thicker and deeper. The clasp engraving is also an important part to identify if the Datejust is made by VS, please check my article to know more, https://www.susanreviews.com/2025/10/20/how-to-know-if-your-datejust-is-from-vs-factory/.

The pictures of the gray Datejust with diamond markers.

VS V2 Gray Datejust Diamond Markers

How to know if your Datejust is from VS Factory?

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Currently there are two big things in the market, first, it is about the Clean Plus factory. Second, it is about VS factory, which is their Rolex watches are too hot, often out of stock, people who are going to order their Rolex especially Datejust usually need to wait. After the closure of Clean, VS published V2 Datejust 2, which helped them dominate this market immediately, for people who want the best Datejust 2, I also recommend VS.

Before the closure of Clean, I said this factory has started to use the DD3235 movement in their Datejust, it is a new DD3235 that has 27 bearing balls, now VS also uses this new DD3235 movement in their Datejust 2, many dealers saying the new DD3235 is much better than the old version when they promoting VS watches, so this brings a problem, which is a lot of customers then insist on buying the watch with that new movement, however, VS factory hasn’t actually used this new movement in every watch, both the old and new movement are randomly used, and both movements have the same quality in my opinion.

The VS Datejust is so hot, some dealers deceive customers by selling them other factories Datejust as VS Factory models, to avoid being scammed, today I will show you a feature of the clasp on VS Datejust to help tell if the watch is from VS.

Please use a magnifier to observe the letter “A” on the engravings of the clasp.

Letter E

On VS Datejust, the letter “A” in word “GENEVA” and “MADE” has a flat top. The letter “E” in “MADE”, its middle bar is slightly shorter than the top and bottom ones.

Pointed A

On the clasp of the Datejust from other factory, the engravings look somewhat shallow, and the letter “A” has a more pointed top.

Rolex SA
This is the engraving of “ROLEXS.A.” on VS Datejust.

Datejust Clean Plus vs Clean

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A new factory named Clean Plus just appeared in the market, we talked about it before, some people say it is Clean and they are back to the business, some people say it is not the original Clean Factory, so the hottest thing we are discussing about is whether the new Clean Plus is still the same previous Clean Factory. Now Clean Plus has released Datejust, YachtMaster and Daytona, I think they will publish more watches next.

Clean Factory has been closed for a while, people are still looking for Clean watches, I do hope Clean Plus can make the same quality watches as Clean, or even better quality. But after checking the Datejust from Clean Plus, I found their quality is still not the same as that of Clean.

There are two Datejust watches above, the left one is from Clean Plus, the right one is from Clean.

Datejust Crystal Clean Plus vs Clean

First, check the crystal, it is lower on Clean Plus, while on the right Clean Datejust, the crystal stands a little higher.

Date Clean Plus vs Clean

Second, the date wheel is different. Check the date font on the left Datejust from Clean Plus, it is a little thicker.

Buckle Clean Plus vs Clean

Third, the Rolex Crown logo on the buckle is different, I like the one on the right watch from Clean.

Clasp Clean plus vs clean

Fourth, the clasp engraving is different. On the top, it is the clasp on Clean. The engraving is bigger and deeper. On the bottom clasp, the letter ‘O’ is more like a digit 0.

Clean Plus 3235

Clean Plus uses DD3235 movement, this is good, as far as I know, they also use DD3235 in the Titanium YachtMaster and DD4131 in Daytona.

Conclusion

Clean Plus is not the original Clean Factory. Take the Datejust as an example, some watch parts like date wheel and bracelet on Clean Plus are different from that of Clean. Currently the best option for Datejust is still VS V2.

Holiday News

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It is our National Day holiday, which will end on October 8th, but the factories will accept orders after today. In these days, one thing mostly discussed in the watch market is that Clean Factory has been back to the business, they changed a new name, which is Clean Plus, did you buy from them? I heard that this is not the same factory as before, at least the watch assemblers are not the same ones that served in Clean before, so the quality may not be the same. In recent days, many new models appeared in the market, most of them are from APS, including the Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin, which is a new model from JLC, AZ Facyory made the old model before, now APS published the replica, which is equipped with the same super clone 938, the watch looks great, the case thickness is close to that of genuine, the functions on the replica also work, but I do not suggest you buy it, because the movement stability is not improved, it is the only replica watch with super clone movement which I do not recommend, when I introduced the story of APS Factory, I mentioned this movement, it has a high repairing rate.

APS Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin

This watch look really nice, it is said that the 938 movement in genuine watch is also not very stable, is that correct? Is there anyone here that has bought the genuine watch?

Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Replica Watch

The left stainless steel watch looks classic, but I like the rose gold one more on the right.

Replica Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Stainless Steel
Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Power Reserve

In original position, you can rotate the crown to wind the watch, I just did this, I winded, please notice the small hand on the power reserve indicator at 10:00, it moves from 1/4 to 1/2. No need to fully wind the watch because when you wear the watch on your hand, the auto rotor will move to gain energy.

JLC Date Regulator
Date Adjustment

At 2:00 on the case, there is a button for you to push with a tool to adjust the date, which is displayed on the round small dial at 2 o’clock. The factory offers that tool for free.

JLC 938 Movement

On the replica, the engravings on the movement plates look shallow, not deeply engraved.

Black Leather Band on JLC
Deployant Clasp
Quick Release

Whether the stainless steel model or the rose gold model, they are all equipped with a calfskin leather band with quick release system. The band feels a little bit stiff, but you can buy and replace with a genuine aligator leather band. The stainless steel watch comes with a deployant clasp.

Pin Buckle

The rose gold watch comes with a pin buckle.

Hands Finish

On the central hour hand and minute hand, there are two sides, one is polished, the other is matte finished.

The second news is about V7, some people said it got raided on September 30th, but some people said they are fine, they still offer watches.

The third news is about VS. This factory has been very busy after the closure of Clean, their business is booming, now in mens Rolex Datejust field, the boss is VS, no others can compete with them especially the V2 came out.

V2 Datejust from VS has six models now, including the blue, green, gray, black, green rome and the blue one with rome markers.

Plastic Bag

The plastic bag on V2 Datejust now has an elephant sticker.

Rolex Card

Each watch will come with a card, which is upgraded, with a golden edge now.

There are also other features about the new V2 Datejust from VS, I introduced them before, please check them at https://www.susanreviews.com/2025/08/18/vs-factory-datejust-v2/.

Clean

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This is the last time for me to discuss Clean Factory on my blog, like I mentioned on my previous article, I said Clean will not be back, yes, this is true. So, do not trust anyone in this industry who said he can get you the watches from Clean, or you will be scammed.

I have given introduction of many watch manufacturers here, like ZF, AR, VS, APS, etc., I think many of you guys also have read the stories of Clean Factory I published here at https://www.susanreviews.com/2023/09/29/why-did-clean-factory-get-a-success-so-quickly/ and https://www.susanreviews.com/2024/02/17/the-development-of-clean-factory/. Clean indeed has a glorious history and also has made too many great watches for us, now let us see how this watch manufacturer started and then how it fell.

There are many clock malls in Zhanxi of Guangzhou, they had a very good business before, there were a big traffic in the past, everyone came there to get good luxury products such as watches, bags, bracelets, perfume, etc. In 2016 or 2017, a person came to Zhanxi and sold watches, at the beginning, he made the replicas of Nomos, at that time, the workshop he opened even did not have a name. Later he made Roger Dubuis Excalibur and Blancpain Fifty Fathoms, so the first product in Clean’s history is not the green Submariner 116610LV. But facing the competition of Noob in replica Blancpain Fifty Fathoms, he could not make enough money by just selling Nomos, Roger Dubuis and other unpopular watches.

He wanted to make Rolex, but at that time, Noob and AR are the boss in this area, it is hard to compete with them, however, the Rolex Submariner from both Noob and AR also has flaws, especially the bezel of the hulk Submariner 116610LV, which does not have correct green color, the pearl is too white and the bezel markers easily become black, he noticed these issues and turned to make the ceramic bezel, on the first batch of the ceramic bezel made for the Submariner, the platinum filling on the markers finally does not discolor anymore, at this time, Clean was born and only made watch parts like ceramic bezel and dial.

After being promoted, many people bought the Submariner from AR Factory, and then replaced its bezel and dial with the bezel and dial from Clean. After selling the watch parts for a period, he made the Submariner by himself, and he sold the watch under the name “ZZ”, but the Submariner from ZZF still could not compete with AR and Noob. At the same time, Clean also made the bezel for the Daytona.

ZZ continued to improve their Submariner and updated it to V3 edition, with SH3135 movement inside, but they are facing another strong competitor VS Factory, whose Submariner comes with better DD3135 movement inside. At that time, Noob has updated the Submariner to V12 and AR has updated it to V3, ZZ could not compete with Noob, AR and VS.

In April 2021, Noob got raided and closed, AR and VS were also affected. People had no where to get the Daytona, some dealers who still had Noob Daytona watches in stock sold them at high prices, watch fans needed to pay over $1110 to get a Noob Daytona, this is a ridiculous price, but people had no choice. Clean seized the opportunity and inherited the DD4130 movement from Noob, in the end of 2021, Clean published the Daytona with DD4130, the price is a bit higher than previous Noob Daytona but finally returned to be normal. After being published, their Daytona watches were immediately sold out, Clean succeeded. During the closing period of AR and VS, the stock of ZZ Submariner also sold out very quickly, after that they sold both Daytona and Submariner under name Clean. During that period, Clean also got the DD3135 movement and updated their Submariner.

One success builds upon another. Next Clean developed the DD3285 movement and published the super clone GMT-Master II, this become another best seller, now Clean nearly dominated the market of super clone Rolex, VS has been back to the business and still had a certain market share because they have DD3235 movement, many people bought VS Datejust. So in next years before the closure of Clean, it was the competition between Clean and VS in Rolex field, before Clean completed the replacement of the SH3235 with DD3235 in their Datejust, this factory got raided and closed. Now, who is the boss in super clone Rolex field? Absolutely…, you know it.

VS Factory Daytona

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Clean Factory will not be back.

I always think Clean has the best Daytona replicas, unfortunately they have been closed forever. Now the best factory to get a super clone Daytona is VS, most dealers and reviewers said their Daytona is better than Clean, I do not think so, Clean has some details that are better finished. And there is another factory that has good quality Daytona replicas, we almost forget it, this factory is BT.

A new factory has appeared in the market recently, it is UFO, which is a tacky name. They made the replica Daytona 126500, some readers here have asked me about this factory, now I told you do not buy the Daytona from UFO, they claimed that they use the clone 4131 movement with free-sprung balance, that’s a good selling point, but no one knows the stability of this movement, by the way, I have checked the finish on the watch, it is not as good as that of VS Factory Daytona, not to mention in comparison with Clean. And their price is too expensive. Please check the pictures of the UFO Daytona below.

UFO Daytona

Now VS Factory holds the majority of the market share for the Daytona, while BT Factory holds a small market share for the Daytona. VS Factory is still improving the quality of the Daytona, mainly in increasing the weight of the watch, last time several months ago, I already introduced the first batch of the Daytona watches with increased weight on my blog, please check at https://www.susanreviews.com/2025/03/24/vs-factory-heavy-weight-daytona/. Today, I will make a summary of the Daytona replica watches which VS Factory is selling.

First, the Daytona with 4801 movement, which has the most affordable price, please check the movement picture below, it is a naked 4801 without any decoration.

VSF 4801

Second, the Daytona with 4130 movement made by VS Factory. There are totally nine models. The 116500 Daytona white and black models, the weight is about 140 grams. The 116518 yellow gold, 116519 gray dial and116506 ice blue three models have V1 and V2 increased weight options. The V2 edition only has weight gained on the case.

Daytona VSF V3

Third, the Daytona with 4131 movement made by VS, please check the pictures below. We can see that the Daytona models with rubber band have been upgraded to V2, which has gain weight on the case. These Daytona replicas, whose genuine models are made with precious metals, now have been upgraded to V3, the V3 edition has gain weight both on the case and bracelet. I measured the weight of the V3, please check the last picture, it is about

VSF Daytona 4131
VSF V3 Daytona Weight

Conclusion

1.VS has three types of Daytona selling at the same time, the one with 4801 movement, the Daytona with regular weight, the Daytona with increased weight.

2.For the latest V3 edition, VS Factory adds weight both on the case and bracelet, but the watch feels very comfortable when wearing on hand, not like the Daytona made by other factories that has been added too much weight on the case, the case head is too heavy, causing it to feel like it’s slipping down when wearing.

3.Up to now, no one has reported any cases of the peeling off issue on the increased weight Daytona from VS Factory.

I do hope VS Factory continues to improve the dial quality of their Daytona, such as the hands finish, or a new factory will appear in the market to replace Clean’s position to compete with VS, I would like to see.

VS Factory Day-Date

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VS Factory just published the Day-Date replica watch, and currently only this blue one is available, but my impression about this watch is it is too expensive.

In the market, if you decide to make the Day-Date replicas, you are facing several strong competitors, including GM, QF, THB, CBD and RC, as I mentioned before, the Day-Date from THB and CBD are not good, if do not consider them, you still need to think about how to beat the other threes, this is very hard, as far as I know, the Day-Date from GM, QF and RC has been accepted by most people, especially after the review on RC Day-Date at https://www.susanreviews.com/2025/07/28/rc-day-date-part-ii/, I highly recommend the Day-Date made by RC.

Now how about this Day-Date from VS Factory? First, its quality is good. Especially its bezel, which seems to have inherited the same improvement VS Factory just made on the bezel of their Datejust, the bezel reflection looks brighter, some people said VS coated real Platinum on the bezel, some said they just coated Rhodium, whatever, the bezel is more gen-like now. Second, this Day-Date from VS uses a real super clone 3255 movement, which is developed by DD movement factory. While the movement in the Day-Date made by other factories is SH3255, which is considered to be not a real super clone 3255 by a lot of watch fans, they think the SH3255 in both QF Day-Date and RC Day-Date is just modified on basis of the 3135. However, the SH3255 is also very stable and reliable, it is hidden behind a solid case back, I think it does not matter whether you choose a DD3255 or a SH3255.

This Day-Date from VS Factory has a weight of 146 grams, which is even lighter than the Day-Date from GM, not to mention compared with the Day-Date from RC. And the price of this VS Day-Date is only about 60 USD cheaper than the RC Day-Date, will you choose the Day-Date from VS? If I were you, I won’t, at least for now it is not the right time. Genuine Rolex Day-Date is made with precious metals like platinum or gold, so it is very heavy, the Day-Date made by RC Factory is 208 grams, which is very close to genuine weight, while this VS Day-Date is nearly 70 grams lighter than the genuine, this is a big difference in weight. So, to buy a quality Day-Date, I still suggest you buy from GM, QF or RC.

Will VS Factory make the Day-Date with gain weight? I think there is a strong possibility, after all their Day-Date has movement advantage when being compared with other manufacturers, this is a great chance for VS to penetrate the market. Currently I think people will still choose the Day-Date with heavier weight, after all their attention has been focused on the gain weight area for years, it won’t easily shift, the weight of a Rolex replica watch is now a more significant factor for people than in the past.

VS Day-Date
VSF Day-Date
VS Factory Day-Date
Replica Rolex Day-Date Blue
VSF Day-Date Blue
Day-Date VS Crown
Day-Date VS Case Back
Day-Date VS Bracelet
Day-Date VS Clasp

VS Factory Datejust V2

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There are no news about Clean Factory in the market, I do not think they will come back, if you found someone on the internet said that he can still get watches from Clean, please be careful, even the band and case back of the watches he show you have the same sticker as previous Clean Factory, please do not trust him, it is easy to get the factory’s sticker in the market. After the closure of Clean, two things happened next in the market, first, VS did a promotion on their Datejust watches in stock, the Datejust prices were slightly lowered down. Second, Q Factory published the increased weight version of Datejust, this is the first time for Q to produce Datejust, in the past, their famous products were Day-Date and Daytona. From these two things, we can see that Q and VS have started to compete the market share of super clone Rolex, I think more and more factories will enter the race later, after all this is a big cake left by Clean. Our watch fans hope that these factories can improve the watches, not just increasing the prices. And VS Factory just did an improvement on their Datejust, the improvement was firstly made on three Datejust 41mm models, black, blue and green with jubilee bracelet, the Datejust watches with other dial colors and other case size currently have not been applied with this improvement.

It is the first time for VS to made the improvement on their Datejust, I think this action from VS is related to the closure of Clean Factory, they badly want to be the number one in super clone Rolex field. This time, VS claims that they made several improvements, but I think the biggest and most obvious one lies in its bezel, on the new V2, the flutes on the bezel appear more three-dimensional, the entire bezel has a brighter and more reflective finish, VS claims that they use platinum coating on the bezel. By the way, the entire watch now has a weight of about 132.3 grams, which is 4 grams heavier than the old V1, so the V2 almost has the same weight as that of the genuine watch.

The pictures of V2 green Datejust II from VS.

VS Datejust II Green V2
VS Datejust II Green V2 - Bezel
VS Datejust II V2 Weight

Let’s talk about Q Factory, they also published the increased weight version of the Datejust, they have more models to choose, but the weight is too heavy, which is 148 grams, this is even heavier than the genuine watch. By the way, Q Factory claims that they use DD3235 in their Datejust, but this is not the real DD3235, it looks slightly different from the genuine DD3235 used by VS.

The weight of the Q Factory Datejust.

Q Factory Datejust Weight

The difference between the 3235 in Q Factory Datejust and the DD3235 in VS Factory Datejust.

Please check the pictures below to see the difference, and you will know if the Datejust you are buying is equipped with a real DD3235 movement.

Fake 3235 vs Real DD3235

The right watch is from VS Factory and it uses real DD3235 movement. Please check the second picture, look at the red wheel, the left 3235 movement has a bright red wheel, while on the DD3235 movement, that wheel has a dark red color. This is the most obvious difference.

RC Day-Date Part II

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In my last post about the Day-Date from RC factory, I have already made a brief review on their Day-Date watches, please read it at https://www.susanreviews.com/2025/06/30/rc-day-date/, RC is a new maker in the increased weight Rolex Day-Date field, too many factories are making this type of Rolex replicas, every factory is saying their watches are very good, but a lot of customers have been scammed, today, let me talk more about the Day-Date from RC. In future, I will keep an eye on their watches and share my final thoughts here.

Before my today’s work, I want to say something, that is some factories are cheating customers with exaggerated or false claims. Take the Day-Date from CBD factory as an example. In their advertising, I remember they said their Day-Date will not have the issue of case peeling off, but after checking the finish of the bracelet, you will see they are lying. Please check the first picture below, these links were taken off from a Day-Date made by CBD. It is a golden watch, but each link is not fully gold plated, besides, there are two layers of each link, you can see obvious gap, the inner material is probably tungsten steel and the outer is wrapped with stainless steel, the two types of materials can not fuse into a single piece, so cracks form between them. So, when CBD said their Day-Date would not have the peeling off issue, it is a lie.

CBD Day-Date Bracelet Links
The bracelet links on CBD Day-Date, not good, and the bracelet is too thick

Next, let us see the Day-Date from RC Factory, in my opinion, currently their Day-Date looks better than the one made by THB and CBD, which both have the peeling off issue. Their prices are too expensive, so not worth purchasing. Currently the Day-Date from RC looks good and worth a try. Besides, the increased weight Day-Date from GM and QF is also worth buying and is the most cost efficient.

RC Day-Date Weight

The weight of the whole watch is about 208.3 grams, this is a golden Day-Date, the gold tone looks nice, not shiny and looks very close to the golden color on genuine Rolex.

The case is not thick, it is about 12.3mm to 12.6mm. I thought it will be much thicker, but after measuring the actual watch, the case has not been thickened.

Case Weight

The case of the watch is about 102 grams, it is 101.8 grams.

The movement inside is a SH3255, after opening the case back and I weigh the case, it comes to 102.1 grams.

Case Back Weight

The case back is 27.7 grams, it has been added with extra weight on basis of a common case back.

Bracelet Weight

The bracelet has a weight of 106.1 grams.

Clasp Weight

The weight of the clasp.

Each link has a weight of 3.2 grams.

Link

Each link is fully plated with gold, no stainless steel part you can see, no cracking gap on the link, this is much better than that on CBD Day-Date. So, what are the materials used by them to make the bracelet? They are integraded very well.

This is my second review on the RC Day-Date, I think it is a good watch, however, we still need more time to see if their watch will have the issue of peeling off, I will follow up on this and share my third review.