About ZF

I have introduced the stories and development of some watch factories on my blog, including APS, Clean and 3K, a lot of people read these stories and thought they are interesting.

Clean factory: https://www.susanreviews.com/2024/02/17/the-development-of-clean-factory/
3K factory: https://www.susanreviews.com/2024/02/10/about-3k-factory/
APS factory: https://www.susanreviews.com/2024/01/26/secrets-about-aps-factory/

Today, I will give an introduction of ZF. I have talked some things about ZF in another recent post, it is the relationship between APS and ZF, please read it here, https://www.susanreviews.com/2023/12/23/the-bromance-between-aps-and-zf/. Actually I know more things about Clean, Noob, AR and other factories than ZF, there are not many stories about ZF, in the past, I always thought that ZF is a big factory because they have published replicas involving many brands, but I was wrong, ZF is not big, they are not even a watch manufacturer, they just got replica watches from other factories and put “ZF” sticker on, and then sell to their clients, so I finally understand why the watches from ZF have higher prices than other factories.

Not like the other three factories we talked before, ZF is not a watch manufacturer, however, some watches from ZF are still worth buying.

First, the IWC Big Pilot, ZF bought the watches from AZ and changed with a better dial, price is a little higher than AZ Big Pilot. Worth buying.

ZF Big Pilot

Second, the IWC Portuguese 7 Days Power Reserve, this watch from ZF is equipped with a custom-made 52010 movement, which was developed by APS and is the first generation of custom-made movements in this industry, that movement has about 3-day power reserve. ZF also changed with a better dial on the Portuguese 7 Days Power Reserve, and this watch made ZF well-known all over the world. It is worth buying.

ZF Portuguese 7 Days

Third, Tudor replica watches from ZF all have a great quality, they are worth buying.

ZF Tudor

Fourth, about AP Royal Oak 15400 and 15500, I always recommend ZF, but now my thought changed, you can directly buy from APS factory, because ZF also got these two models from APS, but sell them at a higher price.

Sixth, it is Patek Nautilus 5711, ZF makes the best replica in the past before 3K factory developed the super clone 324 movement. Now, besides the blue/grey dial version, the replicas of other Nautilus 5711 models, I suggest you buy from 3K.

Seventh, replica Patek Nautilus 5712, only ZF makes it and this watch is really good and the movement is very stable. Worth buying.

ZF Patek Philippe 5712

Eighth, the last two watches are Franck Muller V45 and Bvlgari Tradition, these two watches have a very high quality and are worth buying.

ZF Bvlgari Tradition
ZF Franck Muller V45

Secrets about APS factory

In one of my articles published in the end of last year, I talked about the friendship between ZF and APS, today, more interesting stores about APS factory will be shared.

First, have you heard of BF? I thought it was a new factory when their AP ROO Diver 15710 and 15720 firstly appeared in the market in 2021, but BF has been in the market for more than 5 years, even has a much longer history than APS, there is a relationship between APS and BF. Their bosses are cousins. BF introduced APS into this industry.

The relationship between ZF and APS is very solid, we talked about this in the article https://www.susanreviews.com/2023/12/23/the-bromance-between-aps-and-zf/. In the early time when APS just entered this market, almost all replica watches were using Asia clone ETA 2824 and 2836 movements, they wanted to use better movements to create better replica watches, so they focused on researching and developing movements at the beginning, absolutely the new movement development process is mainly completed by Chinese traditional movement factories. Take the Portuguese 7 Days Power Reserve as an example, the earlier model with old movement looks werid, check the picture below.

Old Portuguese
The Portuguese with old movement

Then APS cooperated with a movement factory in Dandong and developed a new movement, after being installed, the Portuguese 7 Days Power Reserve below with new movement looks very nice. At that time, APS only sold this Portuguese 52010 movement to ZF. But one or two years later, APS realized that they could not earn enough money by only developing and selling movements to other factories, then they started to sell the Portuguese 7 Days Power Reserve replica watches by themselves, with the latest 52010 movement they owned, but under another name “AZ”, someone also call it AZF, so, APS and AZ are actually the same team.

New Portuguese
The Portguese with new movement from APS

The clone IW52010 is a great success for APS, they wanted to develop another great movement now, especially after seeing the release of Dandong 4130 movement by Noob, APS took the action immediately. They also cooperated with Dandong and developed two movements in 2020, one is JL925 for the Jaeger LeCoultre Master Moonphase, the other is JL938 for the Jaeger LeCoultre Reserve De Marche. The first batch of clone JL925 movement was sold to YL factory, later APS also equipped JL925 in their replicas of JL Master Ultra Thin Moonphase and sold under name of “AZ”. Later this clone JL925 movement was also supplied to ZF and GF two factories.

Next, it is the 3120 movement used in 15400. We know 3120 was developed by JF before, but JF was closed, later the 3120 was improved by a movement factory in Shanghai. Then APS seized the opportunity and accepted all 3120 movements from Shanghai. Now we can see the 3120 in Royal Oak 15400 made by APS is very stable. Later APS offered a small amount of 3120 movement to ZF. And then APS and this movement factory in Shanghai developed the 4302 movement together, we can see 4302 is now used in Royal Oak 15500 made by ZF and APS. The last movement from APS I want to mention here is the 5134 used in Royal Oak Perpetual Calendar 26574, this movement is also very stable, for AP 26574 replicas, I still recommend the ones made by APS, which are more stable than those ones just published by BBR a few weeks ago.

AP 26574 Black

The Bromance Between APS and ZF

Just in this week, ZF released the replicas of Royal Oak 15450, which have a 37mm case diameter and are measured to be 9.8mm in thickness. They are equipped with the super clone 3120 movement developed by APS factory. There are three colors available, gray, white and blue, please check the pictures of them in the end of this article. Actually I have introduced the replica AP Royal Oak 15450 watches on my blog, they were firstly published by APS factory just two weeks ago, now ZF followed the step of APS and published the same watches. If you ask me which factory makes the best, I would say it is a correct choice no matter which factory you buy from. ZF had cooperation with APS before, but from now on, I am more convinced of their bromance.

Like ZF, APS also has been in this industry for many years, but it is still younger than ZF. When APS just entered this industry, ZF has been famous for some time because of some Panerai replica watches they made, for example, the PAM 127, this is a very hot replica Panerai watch in the past, ZF made it really good and competed with Noob. In 2016, APS seized an opportunity and cooperated with YL factory, both developed an important movement together, which is the clone 51011 that was later used in the replica IWC Portuguese 7 Days Power Reserve watches made by ZF. So, we know that the famous watch Portuguese 7 Days Power Reserve from ZF is actually using the movement given by APS factory. Even YL also published the replicas of Portuguese 7 Days Power Reserve, but they still could not compete with ZF at that time, some people said that ZF has better finish on the case and dial on this replica watch.

Why did APS give movement 51011 to ZF? I guess they need the protection of ZF, because APS just entered this industry and ZF has a strong background. Do you still remember the raid ? I do not know exactly whether it happened two or three years ago, many big factories were closed, including Noob and ARF, but ZF and APS survived.

Next, it is about the super clone AP 3120 movement, which is also developed by APS factory. In the past, ZF used a Miyota 9015 movement in the Royal Oak 15400, on the basis of Miyota 9015, ZF added extra plates and made decorations to let final movement look closer to genuine AP 3120. Several years later, APS spent money and developed a super clone AP 3120 movement, as far as I know, this movement was manufactured by Shanghai xx xx. Because of this movement, the case thickness of replica Royal Oak 15400 and 15500 is much thinner and closer to that of genuines. By the way, APS also gave this movement to ZF, that’s also a big reason why 15400 and 15500 from ZF are being sold so well. Seeing from this thing, the friendship between ZF and APS is really solid. APS factory has also published the replicas of 15400 and 15500, they continuously improve them, but their watches are still not sold as well as ZF.

APS acted faster than ZF but they are always thinking of the latter.

Replica Audemars Piguet 15450 White
Replica Audemars Piguet 15450 Gray
Replica Audemars Piguet 15450 Blue
Replica Audemars Piguet 15450 Crown
Replica Audemars Piguet 15450 Movement

The New Trend – Replica Watches with Increased Weight

All news are about replica watches with increased weight in recent days, actually it is the hottest topic people have been talking about since the second half of this year. Nowadays, replica watches are made closer and closer to genuine watches, but people are still pursuing perfection, so some persons in the market will do custom-made jobs on these replica watches made by famous factories like Clean, ZF and VS, I think they are the first to use the case with increased weight on replica watches, and then the factories found this business opportunity and also participated in. The two factories that firstly make replica watches with increased weight are GM and GS, which published the Day-Date replicas with increased weight, in my memory, they were very popular once being published to our market.

Then another factory appeared, its name is TED, they make a YachtMaster 226659 replica with increased weight, it is said TED is a sub-branch of VS company, but I think it is just a small studio opened by somebody that has a good relationship with VS, so he can sell this watch in the name of VS.

Now the factories we discuss the most is Gold and APS, Gold factory makes replicas of Daytona and YachtMaster with increased weight, APS makes replicas of Daytona and Royal Oak 15400 with increased weight, Gold seems to be more popular. There are some rumors about Gold factory in our market, someone said that Gold is operated by Clean, most people said that Gold is a watch part factory that makes cases and has been in the market for years, I choose to believe the latter one. Now Gold factory only makes the Daytona and YachtMaster models with rubber band. Today, I choose the Daytona with gray dial and rubber band from Gold and APS to take some pictures and make a simple comparison between them.

Both Gold and APS use tungsten steel in the case, but not all pure tungsten steel, the case is made with tungsten steel alloy material, or it is too hard. The weight of the APS Daytona is 145.2 grams, while Gold is 142.9 grams, this Daytona from Clean is around 109 grams, so each Daytona from Gold and APS is more than 30 grams heavier than the Daytona from Clean or BT. However, there is still a weight difference because genuine watch is around 160 grams. Because of the added tungsten steel, the case of the Daytona from both factories may not be polished as well as the one of Clean Daytona, this is true, you can check the case back and the lugs, because tungsten steel is harder and is not easily polished as smooth as the stainless steel.

The biggest difference absolutely lies in the movement, Gold Factory uses a Dandong 4130 movement in this Daytona, while APS uses Shanghai 4130, I still prefer the Daytona with Dandong 4130 movement, because this movement has been tested to be very reliable for years, while Shanghai 4130 is still new to us, currently it is only installed by the Daytona replicas made by ZF and APS. Well, this may be the reason why this Gold Daytona is much more expensive than the APS Daytona.

The case shape and size on the two watches are very similar, I assume that they came from the same watch part factory. The gray dial is slightly different in color, I can not say which one is better, but both are not as good as the dial of Clean Daytona. On the clasp, the engravings on the APS Daytona is thicker and deeper, both Gold and APS use 904L stainless steel on the clasp. At last, please check the pictures of the Daytona from both, the one with a dog head icon is from Gold factory, the other with a green sticker is from APS factory.

The pictures of the Daytona from Gold Factory.

Gold Factory Rolex Grey Daytona Replica

The pictures of the Daytona from APS Factory.

APS Factory Replica Rolex Daytona Grey

Comparison pictures between them.

Gold VS APS

The latest news in our market

In October, there are some new factories appeared in our market, the most popular one is the Gold Factory, which makes Daytona with improved weight, actually before Gold Factory, we have heard that VS opened a new branch named TED to make the 42mm YachtMaster with improved weight. We know genuine Rolex watches are made with solid platinum, yellow gold or rose gold, so these Rolex replicas, whether made by Clean or VS, always have a ligher weight than the genuines, so Gold Factory and TED tried their best to increase the weight of the replica Rolex watches to make them have a closer weight to genuine, Gold Factory now has made a lot of Daytona replicas in this type, they are very popular in the market, I think they will gain a great success in this field.

Now if you ask me which factory makes the best Daytona and which factory occupies the largest market share of replica Rolex, I will say it is Clean, their Rolex replicas are really being sold very well, especially the Daytona and GMT-Master II, they face no competitors or I could say Clean has beaten all competitors. However, a problem shows up, that is Clean won’t often improves the details of their watches like before, after all they have achieved such a great success, but as customers, we want the replicas to be perfect, so I think the appearance of these new Daytonas made by Gold Factory with improved weight will push Clean to upgrade their watches continuously, otherwise their market share will be slowly eroded by Gold Factory, because Gold really solve a big problem.

In one of my previous posts, I mentioned that GF has bee closed due to the raid, now this factory back to the business one week ago, they have a new name, which is called GO, they usually released watches once every five days.

The last news is about APS factory, they also start to add weight on their Daytona and AP 15400. APS factory started to make Daytona watches about two months ago, but this project has failed, nobody has bought their Daytona in the last two months, so they improved the weight, but I do not think they will get a good result, because Dandong 4130 movement has been tested and proven to be very stable and reliable, the Shanghai 4130 which APS Daytona uses still not recognized by us. However, at the same time APS factory also published the AP 15400 with improved weight, but I think they will succeed in AP. In the past, this replica AP 15400 with leather band is only 103 grams, after being added with weight, the entire replica watch is about 140 grams, you know the genuine watch is more than 150 grams, but less than 160 grams. How did APS factory add weight on this AP? They added tungsten steel in case and case back.

AP 15400 Improved Weight

APS Factory Replica Jaeger LeCoultre Ultra Thin Moon Phase

Highly recommended! APS factory just published five replica watches of Jaeger LeCoultre Ultra Thin Moon Phase, including stainless steel and rose gold, the dial has white, black and blue color options. Please check the pictures below. The stainless steel model with white dial is the most classic one, which has a very similar weight to genuine watch. While the replica in rose gold has a lighter weight than the genuine, because the rose gold on the replica is plated not solid gold, and the rose gold color will slightly fade after a long time of wearing.

About Jaeger LeCoultre Ultra Thin Moon Phase, it is a very popular watch, there are also several factories here manufacturing its replicas, including ZF, GF and AZ, now GF is closed. The following five replica watches are the replicas of the new Ultra Thin Moon Phase models which Jaeger LeCoultre published in 2021, now only APS factory makes them. The new Jager LeCoultre Ultra Thin Moon Phase has the same size as the old model that was published in 2011, but there are some differences on the dial you can clearly see, here we do not discuss the differences between the new model and the old model, I will mention several differences between the replica and the genuine.

First, the case thickness of the replica is up to 9.8mm, while the genuine watch is only 9.3mm, the replica has been made to have a very close thickness to genuine, but I think a 0.5mm is a big difference for such an ultra thin watch. The moon phase runs one circle per month like the genuine watch, but the moon phase indicator does not look that three-dimensional like the genuine. Third, it is about the movement, APS factory uses a super clone dandong 925 movement, but the brand name “JAEGER-LECOULTRE” and other information on the movement plate seem not to be engraved, they look like being printed because the lettering looks shallow. This is a big mistake especially for the watches with crystal back. Genuine watch uses high quality alligator leather band, the band of the replica is made of calfskin leather, but you can ask your dealer to change a real alligator leather band on, only need to pay some extra money.

Jaeger LeCoultre Black
Jaeger LeCoultre Blue
Jaeger LeCoultre Diamonds
Jaeger LeCoultre Rose Gold
Jaeger LeCoultre Moon Phase White Replica
Jaeger LeCoultre Ultra Thin Moon Phase Replica
Jaeger LeCoultre Ultra Thin Moon Phase Crown
Jaeger LeCoultre Ultra Thin Moon Phase Case
Jaeger LeCoultre Ultra Thin Moon Phase 925 Movement

APS Factory Daytona available now

APS Panda Daytona White
APS Panda Daytona Black

On June 19th, APS factory announced that they will publish the Panda Daytona black and white soon, now the two Daytona models just came out. What about the quality? Is it worth buying? I think we need to wait, after all they just came out and there are no reviews, are they good or even better than the ones from Clean? We do not know, while the time will give us an answer.

APS Panda Daytona Small Seconds
APS Panda Daytona Crown

Before APS, you could get a super clone 4130 Daytona from Clean, BT, King, and New Noob, the Daytonas from these four factories are using Dandong 4130, which is considered to be the best clone 4130 movement in replica watch market. However, although facing the four choices, people are still willing to choose the Daytona made by Clean, this leads a result that their Daytonas immediately sold out once Clean publishes them to the market, now in the market, if you want a quick order, you need to pay extra money to get one Panda Daytona from somebody because Clean does not have it in stock.

APS Panda Daytona Bezel Height
APS Panda Daytona Case Back
APS Panda Daytona Clasp

Back to this Daytona made by APS factory, will they beat Clean and occupy the entire market ? I do not think so. I got the two watches and have compared them with the Daytona made by Clean, I found that APS version is not better than Clean, some details such as the dial printing is even worse than Clean Daytona. About the movement, APS factory uses Shanghai Jinghe 4130 movement, about Shanghai Jinghe Factory, it is also a big movement factory in China just like Dandong and Sea-gull, Shanghai Jinghe made the 3120 and 4302 movement(used in AP) as well as 240 movement(used in Patek) before, this is the first time for their 4130 movement to be used in replica Daytona, its stability and accuracy still need to be tested, I trust its accuracy, but can its stability be compared with that of Dandong 4130? Dandong 4130 movement is very stable, Clean factory sold thousands pieces of Daytonas and they received no complaints about this movement. While this Shanghai 4130 needs to be tested first, I see there is little difference between them, check the last two pictures, the first is Shanghai 4130, the second is Dandong 4130. Anyway, I do not suggest you buy this Daytona from APS at this point.

Shanghai 4130:

Dandong 4130:

Dandong 4130 Movement

APS Factory JL Rendez-vous Night Day Lady Watches

Jaeger LeCoultre Rendez-vous Night Day, about its replica, the best one is made by GF before, now GF has some troubles and can not offer watches currently, APS factory just published the replicas several days ago, they published seven models in different styles, stainless steel, rose gold and diamonds all available. The JL Rendez-vous Night Day made by APS now has become one of the fewest super clones for ladies in our market.

In my opinion, APS is a very good watch factory, the Jaeger LeCoultre Rendez-vous Night Day they published this time is equipped with a in-house super clone JL 898A automatic movement, not like the GF version that is based on Miyota 9015, the movement in APS version is the first super clone JL 898A movement in our market, so the movement on the replica is closer to genuine JL898A when you check it through the see-through crystal back. APS factory is very strange, they committed themselves to developing super clone movements, once the movements ready, then they will publish the watches and improve the watches. For example, APS is the first factory to publish the super clone 3120 movement used in AP Royal Oak 15400, after developing this movement, they install it in AP 15400 and sell, then continuously improve the case finish and dial details. After knowing the importance of super clone 3120, then ZF started to use it in their AP. So, APS and ZF choose two different development route. The Royal Oak Perpetual Calendar 26574 made by APS factory is also very popular, although it does not use a super clone 5134 movement, it can achieve a lot of functions.

Back to this JL Rendez-vous Night Day, because of the best clone 898A movement, the case of the replica is reduced to 8.5mm, which is the same as that of genuine watch. The blue steel hands and blue Day&Night indicator, its blue color is very close to that on genuine watch. The Day&Night is working. The watch looks very elegant on both stainless steel bracelet and leather band.

APS Jaeger LeCoultre Rendez-vous Collection
Replica Jaeger LeCoultre Rendez-vous Blue Diamond
Replica Jaeger LeCoultre Rendez-vous Blue Leather
Replica Jaeger LeCoultre Rendez-vous Stainless Steel Blue
Replica Jaeger LeCoultre Rendez-vous Stainless Steel
Replica Jaeger LeCoultre Rendez-vous Yellow Gold Diamond
Replica Jaeger LeCoultre Rendez-vous Yellow Gold
Replica Jaeger LeCoultre Rendez-vous 898A

APS Factory Replica Audemars Piguet Diver 15707 Ceramic Black and White

Replica Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Diver 15707 Black

Besides 15400 and 15500, the model ROO Diver 15707 is also one of the best-selling replica APs in the past years. J12 made the best replica AP 15707 in the past, if you still have one AP replica made by J12 factory, then you are very lucky, because this factory has been closed for years, and you can not find any other replica watches that have the same quality case and bracelet as J12. Just months ago, another factory named IP published the replicas of AP Diver 15707, the finish is ok, but not as good as the ones made by J12, I do not recommend. But this new AP 15707 made by APS factory is good, I recommend, now it should be the best one in our market.

Replica Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Diver 15707 White

APS factory has been manufacturing replicas of Audemars Piguet for years, we know their 15400 and 15500, but few people know the clone 3120 movement used by Z Factory is also developed by APS factory, and the movement 52010 used in the ZF’s Portuguese 7 Days is also from APS, that’s true, just few people mention this. So today, you know that APS has really made a big contribution to this industry.

APSF 15707 Replica
APSF 15707 Date

The new 15707 from APS has two models available now, one is black, the other is white, both are made with real ceramic and use the latest super clone 3120 movement. On the black 15707, you can see obvious brushing on the ceramic case and bezel, which features high-glossy polished screws in contrast. The case finish is good, but still can not compare that of J12 AP, the case is exactly 1:1 cloned, but still a little thicker than the case of genuine watch, because it is solid ceramic, the watch feels very heavy. There is a crown at 10 o’clock, when you rotate it, the inner diving bezel will move. The crown at 3 o’clock can be used for time and date adjustment.

APSF 15707 Bezel
APSF 15707 Case

The dial is ok, the biggest difference lies in the lattices, whose size and spacing are different from genuine. Til today, the lattices on AP replicas, which factory makes closest to genuine, it is ZF, but in subtle detail, there is still difference if you compare genuine watch and the replica carefully. The lume is strong, in order to last as long as the dial lume on genuine watch, please make your replica watch absorb enough sun light during the day.

APS 15707 White Ceramic

The replica watch is equipped with a clone 3120 automatic movement, which is the best 3120 in our market, the movement has been improved two times by APS factory. The movement also used in the ZF or APS 15400, it is very accurate and stable, no people have complained APS 15400 due to the quality of the movement.

AP logo on crown
AP logo on buckle

APS Factory Replica AP Royal Oak 1017 ALYX 9SM

This is a custom-made Audemars Piguet watch that features the classic octagonal bezel of Royal Oak, many people call it “Iron Man”, its entire body is made with stainless steel, it is a whole piece of metal, no other material. The dial is also stainless steel, without hour markers, there are only hands and a date window at 3 o’clock, it looks very clean and just in line with the “Iron Man” style which the whole watch wants to present. I am not sure which company makes this custom-made AP Royal Oak, but some people absolutely wants to try with this fresh face.

This time APS factory finally released a new Audemars Piguet Royal Oak replica watch before ZF, I hope they can be like this every time in next years and surpass ZF in the field of making replicas of Audemars Piguet Royal Oak. APS factory has the potential to be the number 1 in making replica Audemars Piguet Royal Oak watches such as 15400 and 15500, these two models occupy a large market share of the replica Audemars Piguet, the movement now becomes the biggest advantage of APS factory, there 3120 movement used in the Royal Oak 15400 is considered to be the best clone 3120 movement in our market, better than the ZF 3120, now just need to continue to improve the case and bracelet finish, then APS will be the leader of the market, just like JF, which has been the boss of replica Audemars Piguet watches for more than 10 years. We all hope that APS can be the boss in the field of Audemars Piguet, so that customers won’t be confused when picking up the best replicas of Audemars Piguet.

No need to talk how high quality the case and bracelet are completed in, like other stainless steel Royal Oak Audemars Piguet replica watches, this “Iron Man” also feels heavy on hand, the polygonal steel bezel is installed correctly and fits the case very well. There is one way to quickly know whether the finish on the case and bracelet is good or not, just use your hands to feel the whole watch, especially each edge or corner on the case and bracelet, usually big factories will finish these subtle places very well, you won’t have any scratch feeling. The replica AP Royal Oak “Iron Man”, APS factory installs a super clone 3120 automatic movement inside, it is the best clone 3120 calibre in our market, even the 3120 from ZF can not compare with it, it is easy for you judge if it is a super clone movement, there is a display window from the back, where you can see each component. This 3120 developed by APS factory is not simply based on Miyota 9015 and being added with extra decorated plates, it is totally not, but a better version.

Replica AP Royal Oak 1017 ALYX 9SM
Replica Audemars Piguet 1017 ALYX 9SM
Replica Audemars Piguet Iron Man
Audemars Piguet 1017 ALYX 9SM Crown
Audemars Piguet 1017 ALYX 9SM Movement
Audemars Piguet 1017 ALYX 9SM Buckle
Audemars Piguet 1017 ALYX 9SM Clasp