OME, which just appeared in this industry, has forced PP Factory to make improvement on the movement of replica Nautilus 5712. Last time, PP Factory made deeper engravings on the 240 movement of replica 5712, I talked this in previous post at. OME only made the replica Patek Nautilus 5712, including the stainless steel model and golden model. I know you guys have seen a lot of reviews about OME 5712, some reviewers said OME makes the best replica 5712, which is much better than the one from PP Factory, here I took the golden 5712 from OME to make a simple comparison, please chck the pictures below.
On the first picture below, the left golden 5712 is from OME, the right stainless steel 5712 is from PPF but has been replaced with SW dial, hands and moon phase. Some reviewers said that OME uses the same SW watch parts, but I still found that SW dial, hands and moon phase on the right watch are better. However, we can see that OME uses a solid axis for the hands.
On the second and third pictures, it is the case comparison. The middle case is thinner on OME 5712, but the entire case on both watches has the same thickness. On the end of the lugs, its shape is finished so well on OME 5712, it looks much better than that on PPF 5712. If you want to replace the dial, hands and moon phase on PPF 5712, you need to pay a lot extra money, the total price will be more expensive than that of OME 5712.
Are there any other differences? Like movement? You can comment below.
At the beginning of this month, PPF announced that they will make some changes on two watches, one is Nautilus 5712, the other is Overseas 4500V, both are very popular models, especially the Nautilus 5712, which has been a best seller in recent years. Now, improvements on both watches are completed, in the following I will show you what improvements have been made on both.
First, the Patek Philippe Nautilus 5712. Before this improvement, it is V3 edition, after that, it is still V3. On this watch, previously two improvements have been made, on V2, the power reserve becomes real. On V3, the clasp was changed. Now, PPF made another important improvement on the movement, whose golden engravings become deeper, please check the comparison pictures. I put two movements together to make a comparison, it is easy to tell. On the older version, the golden letterings seem to be printed, while on the newer version, they are engraved, there are obvious depth.
Second, the Vacheron Constantin Overseas 4500V. The improvement also made on the movement, its balance wheel is changed to the position of 7 o’clock, actually very close to position of 8 o’clock, you can see the pictures of V1 and V2 below. However, after the change on the movement, the case thickness increases from 11.2mm to 11.5mm. Besides, the date adjustment also changes, on previous V1, rotate the crown clockwise, the date will change. While on the V2 edition, you need to rotate the crown counterclockwise to adjust the date. Some people said the date font becomes thicker on V2, I did not notice the difference.
It is my first time to introduce this Patek watch on my blog, because many people have asked for this watch, I have not reviewed it because there is no super clone movement for this Patek watch, and I think there will not be a super clone movement for it in future, this Patek Philippe Nautilus 5726 is a watch with complicated functions, it is hard to make a super clone movement that can achieve so many functions at the same time, however, if you ask me if there is a good quality replica for this watch, I will say yes, I remembered two factories are making good quality replica of this Patek Nautilus 5726, one is GR, the other if PP. I do not think this replica from PP Factory is much better than the one from GR, but PP Factory charges a much higher price.
It is a good-looking Patek Philippe watch, looks more beautiful and more elegant than the Nautilus 5712 that has been very hot in recent years. I would like to talk about its movement first, it is said to be modified on basis of a Japanese Miyota automatic movement, PP Factory added extra plate on top of the original movement, then made very similar decoration on the movement plates and auto rotor. So you will find the case must be thicker than that of genuine, I measured it, the case is 40.5mm in diameter and 11.5mm in thickness. On some websites, they are saying this movement is on basis of a Miyota 9015, but I checked Miyota 9015 does not have so many functions, is it real?
The dial is blue, it has central hours, minutes, seconds, date, month, week, moon phase and 24-hour display, it is easy to adjust them through the buttons set on the four corners of the case. Through the button on the case at 2 o’clock, you can push to change the month. Push the button at 4 o’clock, the date will change. The moon phase will also change by pushing the button at 8 o’clock. Through the button at 10 o’clock, you can adjust week display. By the way, the moon phase display is like genuine, it only moves a little bit each day. And the dial color looks very close to that of genuine, much better color than that on their Nautilus 5712 from PPF. However, there are two defects I can found on the dial, first, the date font is a bit sunken, the date on genuine watch is closer to the dial plate. Second, when you pull out the crown to adjust time, the second hand will stop, while genuine watch won’t.
For this 5726 replica, PP Factory also offers two other colors, grey and white. The white dial looks good, at least it does not have color difference.
2024 is an important year both for our watch makers and watch fans, we welcomed a lot of new models that have been made with breakthrough watch-making technology. The absolute protagonists in last year are VS and APS, we do not deny that Clean still occupies the largest market share in Rolex field, but VS has already caught up, and APS indeed brought us many surprises. Hope they can release more super clones in future.
1.Clean Factory V3 GMT-Master II Pepsi
For this GMT-Master II Pepsi, it has been improved by Clean Factory for two times, now the latest version is V3. Upon V2, the biggest improvement lies in its ceramic bezel, it is said that the color has been corrected to look closest to that of genuine, while some persons still like the bezel color on V2, still a bit controversial, however, there are still a large amount of watch fans chose to buy this V3 from Clean. By the way, I also only recommend Clean if you want super clone Rolex GMT-Master.
2.VS Factory Daytona 126500
For the new 12xxxx series Daytona, VS Factory has the best movement, Clean has the most complete collection. Since the last upgrade VS has made on hands of 126500, the sales of their Daytona 126500 suddenly improved. This Daytona 126500 from VS is equipped with a super clone 4131 from Dandong, which is supposed to be better than the Shanghai version used by Clean.
3.Clean Factory Daytona 116518
With a yellow gold case, ceramic bezel and black rubber band, this Daytona is one of the best-selling Daytona replicas from Clean. For the sales of Daytona in the market, Clean still occupies the biggest market share, the competition between VS and Clean in this area is still fierce. Actually, every Daytona made by Clean can be put onto this top ten list, they are really perfect clones.
4.Day-Date Heavy Version
I put this watch here just because the heavy version of Day-Date Rolex is really popular, in the past year, many people were asking the weight of a Rolex they were going to buy. And today in Day-Date field, more and more people are participating in the production of heavy versions of Day-Date Rolex replicas, including GM, QF, K, CBD, THB, etc., customers are also more confused than before. Well, currently I recommend two watch makers, GM and THB. GM is the earliest factory that makes the heavy version, they have price advantage, THB has a high price, but they use super clone 3255, the finish is better.
5.PP Factory Nautilus 5712 V3
The 5712 made by PP or Z has been upgraded to V3, with super clone 240 movement and new clasp. We can see that Nautilus moon phase 5712 from PP is very popular in the market, many dealers provide extra service to upgrade its dial with SW Dial and Hands, just like they do on Nautilus 5711 from 3K.
6.VS Factory Grey Datejust with Jubilee Bracelet
You can buy this Datejust from VS or Clean, both versions are very good. I more recommend Clean version before, but modded watches are very hot today, more people buy this Datejust from VS Factory and then made some modifications, for example, replacing its bezel, dial and hands with the bezel, dial and hands from genuine, this is a great idea, and this won’t cost you too much. The super clone DD3235 movement allows watch fans to to this job.
7.APS Factory RM055
Richard Mille has been very hot in the past two years, APS Factory made big improvements on the RM replicas, especially on the model RM055. This RM055 soon became the best seller in Richard Mille field once being published by APS.
8.APS Factory AP 15407
More AP watches can be put in this position, such as 15400, 15500 and 15720 from APS, but people seemed to be paying more attention to the AP 15407 in past year, since that, APS made a big improvement on the balance wheel of this watch. Many watch fans are still not satisfied yet and seeking for trusted source that could add double working balance wheel, it can be done, but too expensive.
9.QF Daytona Le Mans
QF is the watch maker that produced this Daytona, they provide two versions, regular weight version and heavy weight version. I do not suggest you buy the heavy weight version, because they added extra links to increase the weight. By the way, Clean Factory will also publish the Le Mans Daytona soon.
10.3K Factory Nautilus 5711
This watch deserves a more forward position, it is a very popular watch in modded watch market, many people bought this watch from 3K, replacing its dial, hand and date wheel with SW Dial, Hand and Date Wheel, it seems like more and more people are accepting this modded watch now.
There are a lot of other watches that were also sold very well in the market, especially Rolex watches, there are too many, Submariner, Datejust, Daytona, they can even make a top 10 or top 20, every Rolex coming from VS and Clean should be a super clone, no doubt about this. Every one has their own top 10, I can not include every best seller in this list.
In recent years, one of the super clone watches that have been mostly improved in the market is Nautilus Moon Phase 5712, which is made by PPF, actually it is also ZF. I thought they were two different factories when there was a news saying that they cooperated and developed the V2 Edition of 5712 in last year, actually PPF and ZF are the same watch maker. This replica watch is also one of the best sellers in 2024, I think it is more popular than the replicas in other brand watches like Panerai.
For Nautilus 5712, I still remembered the first improvement was made on the movement, PPF developed this super clone 240 movement and achieved the real power reserve function. The second improvement is on the clasp, now this replica is fitted with the latest deployant clasp that is the same as that on genuine watch. However, when you are looking for this watch on the internet, besides the latest version from PPF, some dealers may provide you with other options for 5712. The first option is the one with SW dial and hands, but still using the 240 movement from PPF. You can buy this one, because after being replaced with SW dial and hands, the replica is closer to genuine. Check the pictures below, the left 5712 is using SW dial and hands, the right one is the original 5712 from PPF. We can clearly see the dial color difference, and after being replaced with the SW hands, the axis of the hands is solid.
Some dealers may provide you with another option, which not only change its dial and hands, but also replace its movement. The pictures below just showing the movement that could be used in the Nautilus 5712. It is a completely custom-made 240 movement from ACE. Well, I do not suggest you buy the 5712 with this movement, because it is not stable. This custom-made 240 has a free sprung balance wheel, not index regulated, although this feature makes the movement look closer to genuine 240 calibre, the movement accuracy can not be guaranteed. The custom-made 240 movement also has a much better decoration on the movement plate, you can see the engravings, whose thickness and color are very close to that of genuine, the micro auto rotor is 18K gold made, solid gold. However, this movement is too expensive, need thousands of US Dollars, and its stability is so unsure, so I do not recommend the 5712 with this movement.
I got the Nautilus 5711 from 3K Factory and changed its dial and hands, after the work, I do not think it is necessary to do this, first, it is very expensive to buy a dial, hands and date wheel from SW Factory, second, after replacing the original dial and hands of 3K, the replica watch still does not become perfection.
Check the pictures below, the left watch is the original Nautilus 5711 from 3K Factory, the right watch is the one that exactly using the dial and hands of SW Factory. Could you notice the difference? There is slightly color difference.
I originally also wanted to change its date wheel, but after installing the date wheel of SW Factory, I found it could not be aligned correctly, please check the following pictures.
The left one with SW dial and hands, the right one just with SW date wheel.
Like Clean, 3K also does not have a long history in this industry, it has another two names, K3 and BT. Today, I will give a brief introduction of 3K factory.
In 2019, someone in Zhanxi market bought one Cartier Ballon Bleu replica from V6 factory, he was impressed by the quality and decided to make Ballon Bleu Cartier replica watches by himself, finally, the products came out and the quality is very good, the Ballon Bleu made by him has a very close quality to V6, he was smart, put the V6 sticker on each of his watches and then sell under the name of V6, but at a cheaper price, the result is he earned some money.
The super clone 4130 movement that was developed by Noob and a movement factory in Dandong was very popular at that time. He found this movement factory in Dandong and expressed his thought of wanting to develop a clone PP 324 movement. After half one year of researching, the first generation of clone PP 324 movement came out, which was then equipped in Nautilus 5711 and Aquanaut by WY-3K. But these Patek Philippe replicas equipped with the first generation of PP 324 has a few big issues like jumping seconds, date stuck, sudden stop and noisy auto rotor. Because of these serious problems, a lot of Patek watches were overstocked in their warehouse.
In the end of 2020, I do not remember exact time, they decided to re-study the PP 324 and wanted to solve these issues, then finally the second generation of clone PP 324 came out, which is also the final clone 324 movement you see in current 3K Nautilus 5711 and Aquanaut. The new clone 324 solved all movement issues mentioned above and it is more stable than the movement used in PPF Nautilus. Because of this movement, the case of Nautilus 5711 replica from 3K can be reduced to only 8.3mm, which is closest to gen thickness among all replicas. Afterwards, 3K factory continued to update the case shape of the Nautilus 5711, with the promotion of watch fans who did custom-made works on replica watches, the 3K Nautilus became popular quickly, and now more people are like to buy Nautilus 5711 replica from 3K, other than from PPF, except the blue/gray dial version.
Along with the closure of V6, 3K gained a large portion of the market that belonged to V6 before, then they started to compete with AF in the field of Ballon Bleu. And a branch of 3K, which was called K3, specialized in making ladies Cartier Ballon Bleu.
BT, which is another branch of 3K, makes good quality replicas of Rolex Daytona. Clean is not the only one factory that owns super clone 4130 movement developed by a movement factory in Dandong, BT and New Noob also has it. After the release of Daytona 116500LN by Clean, BT also published the replica Rolex Daytona 116500 white and black models, later Clean made several improvements on the Daytona bezel and dial, but BT also did, so I think the 116500LN Daytona from BT is also very good. Perhaps they wanted to beat Clean so urgently, so next BT published a series of Daytona models earlier than Clean, but the finish is not as good as the first two Daytona 116500LN watches they made before. Next Clean also published a lot of Daytona watches including the yellow gold one and white gold one with rubber band, which have a better quality than BT, so in the competition of Daytona between Clean and BT, BT is gradually at a disadvantage. However, their Daytona 116500LN, full stainless steel Daytona and ice blue Daytona are still worth buying.
Nautilus 5712 is a very controversial replica watch in this field, it has many things to talk about, people also have different opinions on whether this replica watch is worth buying or not. Years ago, ZF published the first replica Patek Philippe Nautilus 5712 watch that is made with stainless steel and has a blue dial, but the power reserve on that replica is fake, later ZF updated the 5712 with a new better clone 240 movement that features a real power reserve, it is the V2 edition, ZF sold it at a very high price.
About this rose gold Nautilus 5712r, actually ZF published the V1 edition in September, now just in this week, ZF upgraded this replica watch to V2, it now has become a better replica, but in my opinion, this rose gold 5712r is not a super clone, the stainless steel Nautilus 5712 with blue dial is a super clone, but this rose gold model has some big differences when being compared with the genuine watch.
I checked the official website of Patek Philippe and found this rose gold Nautilus 5712r, the dial of the genuine watch is in brown color that exactly matches its rose gold tone, while on the replica, the dial color does not look brown but more like grey, this is a big difference, very easy to tell when you wearing this replica among your friends. Another big difference lies in its clasp, whose structure is different from that of genuine. The third big flaw is the engravings on the movement plate do not look that three-dimensional on the genuine. These three differences are very obvious and this is also the reason I do not suggest you buy this replica at the moment.
The replica watch has some selling points, its super clone 240 movement, correct case shape with similar case thickness, correct functions like genuine watch. Well, we still expect that ZF can correct its dial color soon, otherwise no person wants to buy this watch. Many dealers in our market are doing custom-made jobs on the replica watch, like replacing the imperfect dial or bezel with genuine parts, they also see the imperfections on this rose gold replica 5712r and some of them have made modifications on the replica, like the one I show below, this replica 5712r has been replaced with SW’s dial and hands, the moon phase has also been replaced with the moon phase of VVS, the SW and VVS here are two factories that make watch parts in our market. The molder also uses a solid rose gold on this replica watch. However, after being molded, the watch is very expensive.
By the way, even the V2 has come out, but ZF is still selling the V1 edition of the 5712r, it is easy to tell whether the 5712 you have bought is V2 or V1, just check the position of the movement rotor, on V2, it is placed at 9 o’clock, just in the opposite direction of the crown.
The molded 5712r with SW dial and vvs moon phase, made with solid gold.
It has been a long time for me not to write such type of articles, some readers asked me to send them the best sellers list before they make decision on which watch to buy, so sometimes I am wondering that this list may be helpful to them, but it only works in the field of super clones. Actually I have written several articles about the best-selling replica watches in past years, but things changed, some replica watches that were very popular before now are not sold very well, and some watch factories have been closed and do not exist, today, I will write a review about the top ten best sellers of replica watches in 2023, although 2023 is not over yet, the result won’t change.
1.VSF Submariner 126610LV
126610LV is the Submariner with 41mm case Rolex has published, it is known as Starbucks among our watch fans. The replica watch was made and released by VS factory in 2020, now it is still a best seller in our market, many people will buy a 41mm 126610LV when they are considering a green Submariner. The movement in the watch is a super clone 3235, which is known as Dandong 3235, people buy the 41mm Submariner from VS factory mainly because of this movement, which is very reliable and has a low repairing rate.
2.Clean Daytona 116500 V3
A big difference between Clean and VS is Clean will continuously improve their flagship model, while VS does not. For example, the Daytona 116500 should be the flagship model of Clean, it is the most profitable watch of Clean, it is also the Daytona 116500 makes Clean factory to be the boss in the field of super clone Rolex. Since the release of the Daytona 116500 by Clean, the watch has been improved three times, even BT factory made this watch next, I still think Clean makes the best one.
3.VSF YachtMaster 226659
Published by VS factory in 2020, immediately became one of the best sellers and almost beat all other YachtMaster watches, people will consider to buy this YachtMaster replica watch first when they need a YachtMaster. The YachtMaster 226659 has a 42mm case that is made with 316F stainless steel, not 904L stainless steel like being claimed by other dealers. The replica YachtMaster 226659 is equipped with a Dandong 3235 movement. Because the big hotness of the Dandong 3235 movement at that time, many customers wanted to buy this YachtMaster from VS, but this watch was often out of stock, so, somebody noticed this and assembled a team, then started to sell this replica YachtMaster watch, the team was called JVS.
4.Clean Daytona 116519
Like the other Daytonas made by Clean, this Daytona 116519 is also made with 904L stainless steel and uses the super clone 4130 movement, which is also known as Dandong 4130. This Daytona 116519 has a gray dial and is equipped with one pair of black rubber straps. Seeing from the sales record, a lot of people like this grey Daytona more than other models. By the way, for the length of the rubber band, Clean offers different length combinations for various wrist size.
5.Clean Datejust Wimbledon
Published by Clean factory in 2022, this Wimbledon Datejust has a ringing name. This is a Datejust with a new face, tired of seeing pure black, blue or silver dial colors, try this Wimbledon green Rome dial. For 41mm Datejust, perhaps some people will advise VS factory, but in my opinion, the sunburst finish on the dial of Datejust is better on Clean. Dandong 3235 movement from VS on the Datejust is not a big advantage, I prefer the one from Clean that has a better dial finish.
6.ZF AP Royal Oak 15400
Royal Oak 15400 should be my first suggestion if you want to buy a high quality replica Audemars Piguet watch. It is also first watch I recommend if you are looking for a full stainless steel watch with masculine and robust design. Both APS factory and Z factory make super clones of AP Royal Oak 15400, I still suggest you buy from ZF even APS has released the latest V4 edition, because my clients who bought ZF 15400 have not complained its finish and movement.
7.Clean GMT-Master II 126710
Known as Batgirl, this GMT-Master II has a very similar design to Batman, Batgirl GMT has a Jubilee bracelet, while Batman has a Oyster bracelet, both have a black and blue ceramic bezel. The GMT-Master II has become the second flagship model of Clean because of the Dandong 3285 movement. Currently the best Dandong 3285 movement is only used in the GMT-Master II production line of Clean factory. But ordering a GMT-Master II from Clean needs to wait for more than half one month, if you do not want to wait that long, C+ factory is also a good option.
8.Clean GMT-Master II 126710BLRO
Known as Pepsi GMT, this GMT-Master II has a jubilee bracelet and a blue/red ceramic bezel. The case is measured to be 40mm in diameter and 12.1mm in thickness. Together with the Batgirl and Sprite, three of them are the latest GMT-Master II replicas Clean has published in this year. Clean makes the best replica GMT-Master Rolex watch, this is the truth, many dealers will choose Clean’s product as a base watch if they want to make a franken.
9.3KF Nautilus 5711
About Nautilus 5711, it is also one of the best-selling replica watches, the blue one is the most popular model among all Nautilus 5711 replicas published by 3KF and PPF. 3K Factory installs a super clone PP 324 movement in the replica, its case thickness is also the one that is closest to genuine watch, which is less than 8.5mm. By the way, inside the Nautilus 5711 by 3KF, you will never hear a big noise caused by the auto rotor, it can be fixed easily.
10.GMF Day-Date
Definitely a big dark horse in this year, GS factory firstly released the 40mm Day-Date with improved weight, and then GM factory followed the step. I never thought that Day-Date will occupy a position in this list, but it is indeed being sold very well, a lot of people have shown their interest in the updated Day-Date replica watch. After being improved, the weight of the Day-Date replica Rolex watch from GS or GM is very close to that of genuine Rolex. It is ok to buy that Day-Date from GM or GS, both have the same quality.
On this top ten list, you will find most of these replica watches are from Rolex, I am not surprised because the best-selling replica watches are coming from two main factories VS and Clean, even APS and ZF wanted to enter the field of replica Rolex, but not succeeded.
Probably you have known the high popularity of Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711 in this industry, it is one of the best-selling stainless steel replica watches, many people would like to choose Nautilus 5711 as their first replica watch, because it is really good, several watch manufacturers are making it and the competition directly force them to improve this replica continuously, if there is a top ten best sellers, then Nautilus 5711 must be on this list. Just two weeks ago, 3K factory published another new Nautilus replica watch, it is 5811G, which has a very close appearance to 5711. We know 3K, it is the first factory that makes the correct case thickness on replica Nautilus 5711, and their Nautilus 5711 replicas are as popular as the ones made by PPF. Then how about this replica 5811G from 3K? Is it worth to buy? After all the 41mm seems to be more popular than 40mm. Well, I do not think now it is a good time to buy this replica 5811G. It is a good replica, but has a big flaw, yes, it is the dial. The dial color is not correct, it seems like 3K factory directly adopts the dial of their 5711 because it is blue-gray, while on genuine 5811G, the dial is purely blue, please check the pictures in the end of this article, these pictures at last showing a Franken 5811G customized by someone in our market, it uses the genuine dial and solid white gold. The dial color is a big mistake, I think 3K will correct it because it is very easy to create such a blue dial, while the blue-gray dial color is actually harder to achieve. Besides the dial color, another big difference is the part you can not see, you can only feel with your hands, yes, it is the weight of the watch. Genuine watch is made with white gold, the letter “G” behind 5811 stands for white gold, the replica is made with stainless steel, so the replica feels much lighter than the genuine, but on the back, there is previous metal symbol on the lug. The third difference lies in the movement. “super clone PP330 movement”, I saw many Trusted Dealers describe the movement like this on their websites, but is it really a super clone PP330 or still a PP324? I think it is the latter, even though you can see the golden “330” on the movement plate, but the replica 5811G still uses a clone PP324 that is being used by replica Nautilus 5711, 3K factory just changed the name on the plate. On genuine watch, the PP330 movement has a hack mechanism, means the second hand will stop when you adjust time, while on the replica 5811, the second hand won’t stop, because the movement not changed, still a 324. However, despite the big three differences, the replica 5811G from 3K still has two selling points, the superior finish on case and bracelet, and the clasp has the same structure as that of genuine, it is very beautiful. However, for now, I do not suggest you buy this 5811G from 3K. Please be patient and wait, there will be a better version, but I think the movement issue won’t be solved in a short period.
