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PPF 5712 Dial Color Upgrade

Last time, I talked about the improvement which PPF made on the replica Nautilus Moon Phase 5712 in article https://www.susanreviews.com/2025/03/31/two-improvements-from-ppf/, that improvement is the engravings on the movement plate, which become deeper. Just yesterday, PPF announced another improvement on the dial color of the V3 5712, I got the watch yesterday night and took some pictures for you. The dial looks really better than before.

Before, many watch fans would like to get a Patek Philippe 5712 from PPF and then changed a SW dial on because SW dial has a more correct color, now it is not necessary to do this because the new dial from PPF has a correct color. Before this update, I made a comparison between PPF 5712 and the one with SW Dial in article https://www.susanreviews.com/2024/12/31/ppf-nautilus-moon-phase-5712/, we can clearly see the dial of the PPF 5712 looks slightly purplish, now you will not see this issue on the new dial from PPF. Look at the pictures below, actually the dial color looks more authentic than it on the pictures, you will be satisfied with the dial color after seeing the actual watch.

After the improvement, the dial color even looks better than that on SW dial, but is is absolutely much better than the dial color of OME 5712, on the 5712 from OME, the dial looks slightly gray.

About the finish on the edge of the hour markers, SW does a better polishing and the chamfering is more noticeable, which is closer to that of genuine. While PPF and OME have the same finish on the hour markers.

About the color on the hour markers and hands, SW dial is better, its color on the markers is the same as that on the hands. While on PPF, there is still slight color difference between the markers and hands.

My conclusion:

If you have enough budget, I still suggest you choose a PPF 5712 and then change with a SW Dial. SW Dial has a very good dial color and good finish on the hour markers.

The OME 5712 is also very cost-efficient because its case is made correct especially on the lugs.

Two improvements from PPF

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At the beginning of this month, PPF announced that they will make some changes on two watches, one is Nautilus 5712, the other is Overseas 4500V, both are very popular models, especially the Nautilus 5712, which has been a best seller in recent years. Now, improvements on both watches are completed, in the following I will show you what improvements have been made on both.

First, the Patek Philippe Nautilus 5712. Before this improvement, it is V3 edition, after that, it is still V3. On this watch, previously two improvements have been made, on V2, the power reserve becomes real. On V3, the clasp was changed. Now, PPF made another important improvement on the movement, whose golden engravings become deeper, please check the comparison pictures. I put two movements together to make a comparison, it is easy to tell. On the older version, the golden letterings seem to be printed, while on the newer version, they are engraved, there are obvious depth.

Second, the Vacheron Constantin Overseas 4500V. The improvement also made on the movement, its balance wheel is changed to the position of 7 o’clock, actually very close to position of 8 o’clock, you can see the pictures of V1 and V2 below. However, after the change on the movement, the case thickness increases from 11.2mm to 11.5mm. Besides, the date adjustment also changes, on previous V1, rotate the crown clockwise, the date will change. While on the V2 edition, you need to rotate the crown counterclockwise to adjust the date. Some people said the date font becomes thicker on V2, I did not notice the difference.

Pictures of Patek Philippe Cubitus 5821

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Because the movement insde the replica Cubitus 5821 is modified from Miyota 9015, so its case is measured to be 9.15mm, which is a bit thicker than that of genuine watch. However, if you really like this watch, you can buy now because the Miyota 9015 is stable, I think the replica won’t have issues in future. It is also wise for you to wait til PPF or 3K makes the replica, but then the price of them will be much higher.

Replica Patek Philippe Cubitus 5821 Green

Replica Patek Philippe Cutitus 5821 Gold Blue

TW Factory Replica Patek Philippe Cubitus 5821 Green

Some people have been waiting for this replica Patek Philippe watch for a long time, now it came out, made by TW Factory, two models available, one with green dial, the other is a two tone style with blue dial. Do I recommend them? Both replica watches are in middle quality, not super clones, but the quality is acceptable, because the movement inside them is a Miyota 9015 modified clone movement, we know Miyota 9015 movement has been used in this industry for many years and well known for its high stability, PP Factory is still using Miyota 9015 movement in their Nautilus 5711 replica watches, they have been using this movement to compete with 3K Factory in replica Nautilus 5711 for years, and PP Factory is still occupying a part of the market, even most people will choose the 5711 from 3K. The two Patek Philippe Cubitus 5821 replicas are made by TW Factory, about this factory, there is a very interesting thing, which is any watch maker that produces such quality replicas in the market can be called TW, but there is a real TW Factory before, I know there is a real TW, that’s a shame for this factory in such a situation.

The case of the Cubitus 5821 is measured to be 45mm in diameter and 8.8mm in thickness. It is equipped with a Miyota 9015 movement, whose movement plate and auto rotor have been decorated to look of genuine Patek 330 calibre. The movement is reliable, but a bit noisy. I think PP Factory and 3K Factory will also make them in near future, PP Factory, also named ZF, will make them with better finish on case and bracelet, and 3K Factory will install a super clone 330 movement in them, so, you can wait for the version from 3K. But it won’t cost you too much to buy this from TW if you can not resist its charm, after all the Cubitus looks so classic.

PP Factory Replica Patek Philippe Calatrava 6007G

It has been a long time not to see new arrivals coming from PP factory, which is also called PPF by most people, and after seeing my reviews on so many watches, you have known that PPF has another name, which is ZF. They have a lot of super clones, including IWC, Patek Philippe, Audemars Piguet, but nothing in Rolex. ZF tried several times and also wanted to succeed in super clone Rolex, but failed every time. Well, in my opinion, I think every super clone watch from ZF replacable, sometimes I think their watches are overpriced.

This Patek Philippe Calatrava 6007G is the only new model I have seen from PPF, last time about three years ago, they made a similar model, which is 6007A, it seems like this new 6007G has the same design as 6007A, it has a 40mm case diameter and measured to be 10.5mm in thickness, but still more than 1mm thicker than the genuine watch. The 6007G has three color options, blue, yellow and red. I went to their store and got this yellow one.

The watch is a super clone Patek, every detail is perfectly finished, the round bezel is a classic design of the Patek Philippe Calatrava, it is polished and looks very elegant, PPF finishes the case with smooth polishing on every edge of the case to guarantee a very good wearing comfort. The replica almost has no flaws on the case, except its thickness, but I do not think people can notice the difference on case thickness, which is only 1mm difference. The yellow color on the dial perfect matches with the yellow stitching on the leather band, the carbon pattern on the center of the dial is also in line with the carbon pattern on the leather band.

PPF uses a super clone Patek 330 movement in the watch, this is the best clone movement used in super clone Patek Philippe watches, the movement developed by 3K factory and rarely has issues, it has an incredible stability and the inaccuracy is accepted. I think there are two most important movements in fake watch industry, the first one is Dandong 4130, the second one is this 330.

About 3K factory

Like Clean, 3K also does not have a long history in this industry, it has another two names, K3 and BT. Today, I will give a brief introduction of 3K factory.

In 2019, someone in Zhanxi market bought one Cartier Ballon Bleu replica from V6 factory, he was impressed by the quality and decided to make Ballon Bleu Cartier replica watches by himself, finally, the products came out and the quality is very good, the Ballon Bleu made by him has a very close quality to V6, he was smart, put the V6 sticker on each of his watches and then sell under the name of V6, but at a cheaper price, the result is he earned some money.

The super clone 4130 movement that was developed by Noob and a movement factory in Dandong was very popular at that time. He found this movement factory in Dandong and expressed his thought of wanting to develop a clone PP 324 movement. After half one year of researching, the first generation of clone PP 324 movement came out, which was then equipped in Nautilus 5711 and Aquanaut by WY-3K. But these Patek Philippe replicas equipped with the first generation of PP 324 has a few big issues like jumping seconds, date stuck, sudden stop and noisy auto rotor. Because of these serious problems, a lot of Patek watches were overstocked in their warehouse.

In the end of 2020, I do not remember exact time, they decided to re-study the PP 324 and wanted to solve these issues, then finally the second generation of clone PP 324 came out, which is also the final clone 324 movement you see in current 3K Nautilus 5711 and Aquanaut. The new clone 324 solved all movement issues mentioned above and it is more stable than the movement used in PPF Nautilus. Because of this movement, the case of Nautilus 5711 replica from 3K can be reduced to only 8.3mm, which is closest to gen thickness among all replicas. Afterwards, 3K factory continued to update the case shape of the Nautilus 5711, with the promotion of watch fans who did custom-made works on replica watches, the 3K Nautilus became popular quickly, and now more people are like to buy Nautilus 5711 replica from 3K, other than from PPF, except the blue/gray dial version.

Along with the closure of V6, 3K gained a large portion of the market that belonged to V6 before, then they started to compete with AF in the field of Ballon Bleu. And a branch of 3K, which was called K3, specialized in making ladies Cartier Ballon Bleu.

BT, which is another branch of 3K, makes good quality replicas of Rolex Daytona. Clean is not the only one factory that owns super clone 4130 movement developed by a movement factory in Dandong, BT and New Noob also has it. After the release of Daytona 116500LN by Clean, BT also published the replica Rolex Daytona 116500 white and black models, later Clean made several improvements on the Daytona bezel and dial, but BT also did, so I think the 116500LN Daytona from BT is also very good. Perhaps they wanted to beat Clean so urgently, so next BT published a series of Daytona models earlier than Clean, but the finish is not as good as the first two Daytona 116500LN watches they made before. Next Clean also published a lot of Daytona watches including the yellow gold one and white gold one with rubber band, which have a better quality than BT, so in the competition of Daytona between Clean and BT, BT is gradually at a disadvantage. However, their Daytona 116500LN, full stainless steel Daytona and ice blue Daytona are still worth buying.

This is the story about 3K factory.

ZF V2 Replica Patek Philippe Nautilus 5712r Moon Phase

Nautilus 5712 is a very controversial replica watch in this field, it has many things to talk about, people also have different opinions on whether this replica watch is worth buying or not. Years ago, ZF published the first replica Patek Philippe Nautilus 5712 watch that is made with stainless steel and has a blue dial, but the power reserve on that replica is fake, later ZF updated the 5712 with a new better clone 240 movement that features a real power reserve, it is the V2 edition, ZF sold it at a very high price.

About this rose gold Nautilus 5712r, actually ZF published the V1 edition in September, now just in this week, ZF upgraded this replica watch to V2, it now has become a better replica, but in my opinion, this rose gold 5712r is not a super clone, the stainless steel Nautilus 5712 with blue dial is a super clone, but this rose gold model has some big differences when being compared with the genuine watch.

I checked the official website of Patek Philippe and found this rose gold Nautilus 5712r, the dial of the genuine watch is in brown color that exactly matches its rose gold tone, while on the replica, the dial color does not look brown but more like grey, this is a big difference, very easy to tell when you wearing this replica among your friends. Another big difference lies in its clasp, whose structure is different from that of genuine. The third big flaw is the engravings on the movement plate do not look that three-dimensional on the genuine. These three differences are very obvious and this is also the reason I do not suggest you buy this replica at the moment.

The replica watch has some selling points, its super clone 240 movement, correct case shape with similar case thickness, correct functions like genuine watch. Well, we still expect that ZF can correct its dial color soon, otherwise no person wants to buy this watch. Many dealers in our market are doing custom-made jobs on the replica watch, like replacing the imperfect dial or bezel with genuine parts, they also see the imperfections on this rose gold replica 5712r and some of them have made modifications on the replica, like the one I show below, this replica 5712r has been replaced with SW’s dial and hands, the moon phase has also been replaced with the moon phase of VVS, the SW and VVS here are two factories that make watch parts in our market. The molder also uses a solid rose gold on this replica watch. However, after being molded, the watch is very expensive.

By the way, even the V2 has come out, but ZF is still selling the V1 edition of the 5712r, it is easy to tell whether the 5712 you have bought is V2 or V1, just check the position of the movement rotor, on V2, it is placed at 9 o’clock, just in the opposite direction of the crown.

The molded 5712r with SW dial and vvs moon phase, made with solid gold.

How about the replica Nautilus 5811G from 3K?

Probably you have known the high popularity of Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711 in this industry, it is one of the best-selling stainless steel replica watches, many people would like to choose Nautilus 5711 as their first replica watch, because it is really good, several watch manufacturers are making it and the competition directly force them to improve this replica continuously, if there is a top ten best sellers, then Nautilus 5711 must be on this list. Just two weeks ago, 3K factory published another new Nautilus replica watch, it is 5811G, which has a very close appearance to 5711. We know 3K, it is the first factory that makes the correct case thickness on replica Nautilus 5711, and their Nautilus 5711 replicas are as popular as the ones made by PPF. Then how about this replica 5811G from 3K? Is it worth to buy? After all the 41mm seems to be more popular than 40mm. Well, I do not think now it is a good time to buy this replica 5811G. It is a good replica, but has a big flaw, yes, it is the dial. The dial color is not correct, it seems like 3K factory directly adopts the dial of their 5711 because it is blue-gray, while on genuine 5811G, the dial is purely blue, please check the pictures in the end of this article, these pictures at last showing a Franken 5811G customized by someone in our market, it uses the genuine dial and solid white gold. The dial color is a big mistake, I think 3K will correct it because it is very easy to create such a blue dial, while the blue-gray dial color is actually harder to achieve. Besides the dial color, another big difference is the part you can not see, you can only feel with your hands, yes, it is the weight of the watch. Genuine watch is made with white gold, the letter “G” behind 5811 stands for white gold, the replica is made with stainless steel, so the replica feels much lighter than the genuine, but on the back, there is previous metal symbol on the lug. The third difference lies in the movement. “super clone PP330 movement”, I saw many Trusted Dealers describe the movement like this on their websites, but is it really a super clone PP330 or still a PP324? I think it is the latter, even though you can see the golden “330” on the movement plate, but the replica 5811G still uses a clone PP324 that is being used by replica Nautilus 5711, 3K factory just changed the name on the plate. On genuine watch, the PP330 movement has a hack mechanism, means the second hand will stop when you adjust time, while on the replica 5811, the second hand won’t stop, because the movement not changed, still a 324. However, despite the big three differences, the replica 5811G from 3K still has two selling points, the superior finish on case and bracelet, and the clasp has the same structure as that of genuine, it is very beautiful. However, for now, I do not suggest you buy this 5811G from 3K. Please be patient and wait, there will be a better version, but I think the movement issue won’t be solved in a short period.

The following watch is a Franken 5811.

GR Factory Replica Patek Philippe 5396 Moon Phase Watch

I love this watch, its color and functions attract me deeply, it is made by GR factory, actually Z Factory also makes this watch, both have the same quality, I can not tell which one is better. GR is a good watch manufacturer, they usually act faster than Z Factory to publish the replicas of some Patek Philippe complications models, and prices are cheaper than Z. I admit that Nautilus and Aquanaut are the best sellers of Patek in our market, but whether the simple Patek Calatrava 5296 or the complication 5205, you always need one in your collection box. I introduced a rose gold 5296 Patek on my blog before, it is from Calatrava series and looks classic, and made by Z Factory. The replica watch I am going to show you today is another Patek Philippe, but with complicated functions and a similar reference, which is 5396, at the beginning, I thought it has some relationship with the Calatrava 5296, but I was wrong. This replica is made by GR factory, besides the rose gold, they also have stainless steel options, I show you this rose gold model because it looks more beautiful especially with the luxury brown alligator leather band.

GR factory has made several complicated Patek replica watches, the previous 5205R Moon Phase I reviewed before is one of such timepieces and also has a good quality. The case is classic Calatrava’s style, it is rose gold tone with perfect polishing, the hour markers and hands on the dial also use the same rose gold tone as the case, no need to say how good the case is manufactured, usually super clone watches from famous factories have good case finish. The back of each lug has little engravings, cheap and even moderate quality replicas usually ignore this important feature. The case is 38.5mm in diameter and has a 12mm thickness, I found an interesting thing, on the TD TrustyTime’s website, it saying 40mm*12mm in this watch’s description, while 38.5mm*12mm for the ZF version, a professional website made such a mistake. And if you browse on this website, you will find some other mistakes, for example, some Rolex replicas made with 316L stainless steel, but they saying 904L stainless steel in the description.

The functions are impressive, they are real and can be adjusted through the crown and buttons on the case. The moon phase indicator has sandblasting finish like genuine watch, the moon phase also rotate one circle per month, the same as genuine, it can be adjusted through the button on the case at 5 o’clock. I am a bit surprised that this replica uses a monthly moon phase indicator. The week and month are displayed in separate window at 12 o’clock, and they can be adjusted by the button at 10 o’clock and 3 o’clock. Because of its crystal back, we can appreciate the beautiful machinery with correct engravings on the plates and auto rotor, actually both Z Factory and GR Factory use Miyota 9015 as a base movement in this replica.

For such type of watches with complications, I like the golden model more, the band is actually made with calf leather but with embossed crocodile print, if you need more high-end genuine aligator leather band, it can be custom made in our market, price is good.

PPF V2 Nautilus 5712 Unveiled

Many people asked me about this Nautilus replica watch in the past months, now it is really in stock. Patek Philippe Nautilus 5712 replica must be one of the best-selling replica Patek watches in the past two years, because of its sports outlook, multi functions and asymmetrical beauty of the dial, many people love it. But on the V1 edition, there is an obvious flaw on the replica, it is the false power reserve indicator. Now on the latest V2 edition that was just published, the power reserve is real, that’s the biggest improvement on the V2 edition.

Actually PPF factory has promoted the V2 edition of Nautilus 5712 replica since April of 2022, but the watch has not been released in the past months, just two or three days ago, the V2 edition finally came out, we have waited for a long time, more than six months.

For the replica Patek Nautilus 5712, whether on the V1 edtion or the latest V2 edition, you may have a question, that’s the watch is made by PPF or ZF? Because some dealers said it is made by PPF, while it saying ZF 5712 on some websites. Actually both are true. ZF and PPF, both factories have the same boss, which also means ZF is the main watch company, they opened a subbranch named PPF to mainly produce Nautilus replicas. Now you understand.

I gave a review on this replica watch before, now I do not want to deeply discuss it any more. On its dial, the V2 has a working power reserve positioned at 10 o’clock and 11 o’clock. Pull out the crown and rotate it to wind the watch, you will find the small hand inside the power reserve indicator slowly move to the far left number “48”, once being fully winded, the hand will stop at 48, PPF also claims that the power reserve of the replica is up to 48 hours. The second thing I want to explain on the replica is its water resistance, do not wear it to swim, take it off, do not try, the watch is expensive. The screw-in crown and screw-down case back have a good waterproofing performance, but there are two holes on the case set with push buttons to adjust moon phase and date, the water may penetrate from these two small holes, so I do not suggest you wear it when swimming.

The V2 Nautilus 5712 is very expensive, ZF does not sell separately, it is bundled with their 40mm Submariner, which means you guys need to buy one extra black Submariner or green hulk from ZF if wanting to get one V2 5712 from them. So, the cost is very high. Why ZF do this? Because they produced too many replicas of 40mm Submariner before and no one wants to buy their Submariner, so they need to clean up stock. You can wait, they will cut the price in future, but I am not sure how long to wait. The good news is that ZF has reduced the price of V1 Nautilus 5712.

Replica Patek Philippe Nautilus 5712 Blue