Dandong 3135 – Susan Reviews on Replica Watches

About C+ Factory Two Tone Submariner

C+ factory does not have a long history, but it has become a perfect alternative to Clean and VS. From the start, C+ has a quick service to deliver watches, but now they also became very cautious after the last raid happened in last year. Whatever, I have seen some replicas made by C+, their Submariner, GMT-Master and Explorer II are really good quality, some are even better than the ones from Clean.

The ones that are better than Clean are the two Submariner two tone models, why do I think so? First, to enter this industry, the team of C+ factory made a lot of works, including investigating the original parts manufacturers of Clean, and finally they found them, so C+ factory is using the same original equipment manufacturers as Clean, the finish on the case and bracelet as well as other watch parts has no difference with that on Clean, both are in the same quality level. Second, these two golden Submariner watches are equipped with Dandong 3135 movement, just like Clean and VS. Third, C+ factory made a great improvement on the two Submariner, they thickened the stainless steel piece that is wrapped around the bezel pearl, on Clean, it looks a little thin. And last, C+ has the gain weight version of these two golden Submariner, each weight is about 174 grams, but now need to wait, the gain weight version from C+ factory is still out of stock.

In the end of this post, I would like to tell you that another raid happened in last week, some watch factories were forced to be closed, such as EW and TW. However, now you can still order Rolex watches sold under name TW, that’s interesting. Actually now TW is not referring to a specific watch factory in our market, many people or teams are making replica Rolex watches at the same quality and sell them under name “TW”. So TW is still there and hard to disappear.

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About VS factory

In the past months, I introduced the stories of some watch makers, including Clean, APS, ZF, OM and 3K, some readers shown the interest and asked me to give an introduction of VS factory, having been in this industry for a lot of years, I know some things but not too much about VS, so today, I will write these things out for you to read.

First, some readers still asked me where to buy Noob watches, I already mentioned on my previous posts that Noob has been closed forever, they won’t come back to the business in future.

About VS, this is really a big factory and has a longer history than any other watch makers in the market including Clean and ZF. VS is actually more famous than ZF and Clean all over the worldwide. Long long ago, someone went to the Zhanxi watch market and found that the replica Panerai PAM 111 and PAM 005 made by Noob were popular, then he decided to make better replica Panerai watches and sell, he believed that the automatic models would be more popular and started to make the first replica PAM 441. In 2015, the Panerai replicas they made are sold under name KW, and the other name V6 they used for selling replicas of Cartier Ballon Bleu. Those Panerai replicas they made at the beginning are using Shanghai 7750 movement with chronograph feature removed, some people said it is Dandong 7750, I do not know. This movement is added with extra plates with similar decoration to genuine P.9000 movement. The release of this movement was a big surprise at that time, and Panerai replicas made by KW became very hot, I think more popular than today.

In the end of 2016, the first generation of super clone P.9000 movement was born, but it did not have an important feature, which is its hour hand could not be independently adjusted. The first generation of super clone P.9000 was a big improvement in fake Panerai field at that time. And they decided to use a new name VS in 2017, so VS was officially born. The first batch of replica Panerai watches with the super clone P.9000 movement, which include PAM 441 and PAM 661, immediately became the best sellers in the market once being introduced. The Cartier Ballon Bleu replicas from V6 were also being sold very well at the same time. They earned a lot of money. Later, they opened another branch named XF to make VC 2000V and AP 15202.

After, VS decided to make Omega Seamaster, the replica Seamaster 300m Omega watches came out first, I do not know which year it was, these Seamaster 300m replicas coming from VS are equipped with Asia clone 2824 automatic movement that was dressed to Omega 8800 calibre. The first batch of Omega Seamaster 300m replicas won a lot of customers immediately because of their super quality and clean assembly, because VS factory has already used fully automated production and assembly at that time. In the same year, the second generation of super clone P.9000 movement came out.

I do not know when Noob factory started to use Dandong 4130 movement in the Daytona, but in the same year, VS factory unveiled a lot of Omega replicas including Seamaster 150m and 600m as well as De Ville that use clone 8500 and clone 8900. From that time, customers who like Omega only bought the replicas from VS, because they have the best super clone 8500 and 8900 movement. About Panerai, all super clone P series movements are coming from VS.

In 2020, VS introduced two important movements, one is Dandong 3135, which is equipped in VS 40mm Submariner, the other is Dandong 3235, which is equipped in VS 41mm Submariner and Datejust. They started to seize the market share of replica Rolex. Later, the second generation of Shanghai 3135 movement used by other factories was born, but it still can not compete with VS 3135, that’s the reason why Clean abandon it and choose to use Dandong 3135.

Next, it is the raid, many factories closed, VS was closed for some time but it finally came back. During the closure period, we witnessed the rapid growth of another actory, which is Clean. If that raid did not happen, I think VS today controls the biggest market share of super clone Rolex. Do you agree? Because of that event, now VS delivers much slower than before. Anyway, you should feel lucky because VS is still in the business.

The development of Clean factory

I already talked a lot about Clean in my previous reviews of replica watches made by this factory, to know Clean factory better, please read this article.

Before the birth of Clean, the best Submariner replicas were made by Noob and AR, these two factories now have been closed. At that time, the Submariner made by Noob and AR has two big flaws, first, the tone of the bezel markers will fade, second, the green color is not correct. Someone who sold replica watches in the market saw a business opportunity that will earn a lot of money by making a better ceramic bezel for the Submariner. In 2019, he made one green ceramic bezel and sold it under name of “Clean”, immediately the green ceramic bezel became hot in the market, especially among the watch fans who did custom-made jobs, it is the first green ceramic bezel that has the closest green color to gen and has no-fade bezel markers. He earned some money by selling these bezels. At that time, Noob have been selling 4130 Daytona for some time, but their bezel on the Daytona is not very good, so a few months later, Clean made a ceramic bezel for the white Panda Daytona 116500LN. And at the same time, Clean published their first generation of Submariner and sold under name of “ZZF”. At that time, Clean could not compete with Noob and AR in the field of Submariner, later, Noob and AR also developed the ceramic bezel which they claimed won’t fade.

In the end of 2020, Clean announced the release of the GMT-Master replica watches with clone 3186 movement, but they did not sell them until the summer of 2021. In the whole year of 2019, it is the competition of Submariner between Noob, AR and ZZ, later, VS factory also published the Submariner with the latest Dandong 3135 movement, this movement is more stable and has fewer issues than the movement equipped in ZZF Submariner, even the Submariner from VS did not have the same good finish as the Sub from ZZF, especially on the hulk Submariner, the green color on the ceramic bezel is not as good as that on ZZF 116610LV, but with better movement and better quality control as well as higher reputation, VS still beat Clean and became the second big supplier of super clone Rolex Submariner, Noob occupied the biggest market share. Clean’s ZZF Submariner still not hot.

In the development process, Clean updated all their Submariner with the second generation of Shanghai 3135 movement, from that time, in the sales of Submariner, they decided not to use name “ZZF” any more, but use name “Clean” directly. The intense competition between Clean and VS started. During their competition, there was an interesting thing happend, VS found the factory that always supplied ceramic bezel for Clean. Later, VS developed Dandong 3235 movement and firstly equipped in the 42mm YachtMaster, and then equipped it in their 41mm new Submariner and Datejust. After seeing the fast development of VS, Clean took an action and developed a Shanghai 3235 movement, whose decoration is not as beautiful as Dandong 3235 movement of VS, the power reserve of Shanghai 3235 movement is about 45 hours, which is shorter than 72 hours on Dandong 3235 movement. At this time, Noob and AR could not follow the steps of VS and Clean, although they still have a large amount of customers.

In March or April of 2020, I can not remember exactly in which month, Noob and AR were forced to be closed because of the raid, and then VS was also closed. Now only Clean survived. Before this raid, Clean was absolutely not as famous as Noob, AR and VS, but the three actions Clean made next made them become the boss in the market. First, they accepted all orders of Dandong 4130 movement that were only supplied to Noob before, Clean started to sell the Daytona with Dandong 4130 movement in the end of 2021, their Daytona is much better than the one made by Noob before. Second, Clean decided to use the Dandong 3135 movement in their Submariner. From that time, Clean completely beat VS in 40mm Submariner. Third, about in 2022, Clean developed Dandong 3285 movement and continued to improve their GMT-Master replicas. Clean now is the boss in super clone Rolex, and VS can compete with Clean just because they still own the Dandong 3235 movement. Clean made a very quick success, besides the super quality, the luck also played an important role, I explained the “luck” factor in Clean’s development process in another post at https://www.susanreviews.com/2023/09/29/why-did-clean-factory-get-a-success-so-quickly/.