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New Pilot Chrono Watches from APS

Since 2025, APS Factory has brought us a lot surprises, the biggest one should be the super clone 4401 movement they developed and then being equipped in the AP26240 and 26420. From the past to the present, APS Factory can always brought us good movements, and they have maintained this good tradition. Last time, I remembered that they also developed a movement for AP 26331, which is the movement I even do not think is a super clone movement, however, I really hope that this super clone 69385 which they made for the IWC Pilot Chrono watches can get a great success like their 4401, after all, many watch fans have been waiting for a long time for these IWC Pilot Chrono watches.

For the new IWC Pilot Chrono replicas watches from APS Factory, there are three models in blue dial, green dial and black dial, each also comes with two band options, which are stainless steel bracelet and leather strap. In promotion, APS Factory claims that the movement factory spent three years in researching the genuine IWC Calibre and finally developed it, each component can be interchanged with the original movement, that’s a little exaggerated, but I think this movement will be better than the one used in AP 26331. Movements usually have complicated structure, I do not have too much knowledge about them, but seeing from the movement comparison picture below, this clone 69385 movement looks very close to the genuine Calibre. The most important thing is its balance wheel is positioned at 8 o’clock, which is the same as that of the genuine movement.

About the functions of the watch, APS Factory make them correct. Every function is the same as that of the genuine. We know some factories already made these Pilot Chrono IWC replicas watches before, like the ones from TW Factory, but their functions are wrong, the subdial at 6 o’clock has a fixed small hand, the small second hand is running on the subdial at 9 o’clock, this is a big flaw which you can just notice from the dial. Now on APS Factory version, the small second dial in red is running on the subdial at 6:00, other two small dials act as 30-minute chrono counter at 12:00 and 12-hour chrono counter at 9:00.

The watch has a correct case size, which is 41mm in diameter and 14.5mm in thickness. The crystal has blue anti-reflective coating. The watch comes with a quick-release band. However, there is a flaw on the case, one inside edge of the lug is too sharp, look at the picture below, the place marked at red.

Clean

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This is the last time for me to discuss Clean Factory on my blog, like I mentioned on my previous article, I said Clean will not be back, yes, this is true. So, do not trust anyone in this industry who said he can get you the watches from Clean, or you will be scammed.

I have given introduction of many watch manufacturers here, like ZF, AR, VS, APS, etc., I think many of you guys also have read the stories of Clean Factory I published here at https://www.susanreviews.com/2023/09/29/why-did-clean-factory-get-a-success-so-quickly/ and https://www.susanreviews.com/2024/02/17/the-development-of-clean-factory/. Clean indeed has a glorious history and also has made too many great watches for us, now let us see how this watch manufacturer started and then how it fell.

There are many clock malls in Zhanxi of Guangzhou, they had a very good business before, there were a big traffic in the past, everyone came there to get good luxury products such as watches, bags, bracelets, perfume, etc. In 2016 or 2017, a person came to Zhanxi and sold watches, at the beginning, he made the replicas of Nomos, at that time, the workshop he opened even did not have a name. Later he made Roger Dubuis Excalibur and Blancpain Fifty Fathoms, so the first product in Clean’s history is not the green Submariner 116610LV. But facing the competition of Noob in replica Blancpain Fifty Fathoms, he could not make enough money by just selling Nomos, Roger Dubuis and other unpopular watches.

He wanted to make Rolex, but at that time, Noob and AR are the boss in this area, it is hard to compete with them, however, the Rolex Submariner from both Noob and AR also has flaws, especially the bezel of the hulk Submariner 116610LV, which does not have correct green color, the pearl is too white and the bezel markers easily become black, he noticed these issues and turned to make the ceramic bezel, on the first batch of the ceramic bezel made for the Submariner, the platinum filling on the markers finally does not discolor anymore, at this time, Clean was born and only made watch parts like ceramic bezel and dial.

After being promoted, many people bought the Submariner from AR Factory, and then replaced its bezel and dial with the bezel and dial from Clean. After selling the watch parts for a period, he made the Submariner by himself, and he sold the watch under the name “ZZ”, but the Submariner from ZZF still could not compete with AR and Noob. At the same time, Clean also made the bezel for the Daytona.

ZZ continued to improve their Submariner and updated it to V3 edition, with SH3135 movement inside, but they are facing another strong competitor VS Factory, whose Submariner comes with better DD3135 movement inside. At that time, Noob has updated the Submariner to V12 and AR has updated it to V3, ZZ could not compete with Noob, AR and VS.

In April 2021, Noob got raided and closed, AR and VS were also affected. People had no where to get the Daytona, some dealers who still had Noob Daytona watches in stock sold them at high prices, watch fans needed to pay over $1110 to get a Noob Daytona, this is a ridiculous price, but people had no choice. Clean seized the opportunity and inherited the DD4130 movement from Noob, in the end of 2021, Clean published the Daytona with DD4130, the price is a bit higher than previous Noob Daytona but finally returned to be normal. After being published, their Daytona watches were immediately sold out, Clean succeeded. During the closing period of AR and VS, the stock of ZZ Submariner also sold out very quickly, after that they sold both Daytona and Submariner under name Clean. During that period, Clean also got the DD3135 movement and updated their Submariner.

One success builds upon another. Next Clean developed the DD3285 movement and published the super clone GMT-Master II, this become another best seller, now Clean nearly dominated the market of super clone Rolex, VS has been back to the business and still had a certain market share because they have DD3235 movement, many people bought VS Datejust. So in next years before the closure of Clean, it was the competition between Clean and VS in Rolex field, before Clean completed the replacement of the SH3235 with DD3235 in their Datejust, this factory got raided and closed. Now, who is the boss in super clone Rolex field? Absolutely…, you know it.

VS Factory Daytona

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Clean Factory will not be back.

I always think Clean has the best Daytona replicas, unfortunately they have been closed forever. Now the best factory to get a super clone Daytona is VS, most dealers and reviewers said their Daytona is better than Clean, I do not think so, Clean has some details that are better finished. And there is another factory that has good quality Daytona replicas, we almost forget it, this factory is BT.

A new factory has appeared in the market recently, it is UFO, which is a tacky name. They made the replica Daytona 126500, some readers here have asked me about this factory, now I told you do not buy the Daytona from UFO, they claimed that they use the clone 4131 movement with free-sprung balance, that’s a good selling point, but no one knows the stability of this movement, by the way, I have checked the finish on the watch, it is not as good as that of VS Factory Daytona, not to mention in comparison with Clean. And their price is too expensive. Please check the pictures of the UFO Daytona below.

Now VS Factory holds the majority of the market share for the Daytona, while BT Factory holds a small market share for the Daytona. VS Factory is still improving the quality of the Daytona, mainly in increasing the weight of the watch, last time several months ago, I already introduced the first batch of the Daytona watches with increased weight on my blog, please check at https://www.susanreviews.com/2025/03/24/vs-factory-heavy-weight-daytona/. Today, I will make a summary of the Daytona replica watches which VS Factory is selling.

First, the Daytona with 4801 movement, which has the most affordable price, please check the movement picture below, it is a naked 4801 without any decoration.

Second, the Daytona with 4130 movement made by VS Factory. There are totally nine models. The 116500 Daytona white and black models, the weight is about 140 grams. The 116518 yellow gold, 116519 gray dial and116506 ice blue three models have V1 and V2 increased weight options. The V2 edition only has weight gained on the case.

Third, the Daytona with 4131 movement made by VS, please check the pictures below. We can see that the Daytona models with rubber band have been upgraded to V2, which has gain weight on the case. These Daytona replicas, whose genuine models are made with precious metals, now have been upgraded to V3, the V3 edition has gain weight both on the case and bracelet. I measured the weight of the V3, please check the last picture, it is about

Conclusion

1.VS has three types of Daytona selling at the same time, the one with 4801 movement, the Daytona with regular weight, the Daytona with increased weight.

2.For the latest V3 edition, VS Factory adds weight both on the case and bracelet, but the watch feels very comfortable when wearing on hand, not like the Daytona made by other factories that has been added too much weight on the case, the case head is too heavy, causing it to feel like it’s slipping down when wearing.

3.Up to now, no one has reported any cases of the peeling off issue on the increased weight Daytona from VS Factory.

I do hope VS Factory continues to improve the dial quality of their Daytona, such as the hands finish, or a new factory will appear in the market to replace Clean’s position to compete with VS, I would like to see.

About Nautilus 5711 Replicas

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In the past years, 3K Factory has dominated the market of Nautilus 5711 replicas with the super clone 324 movement, a lot of people directly ordered the Nautilus 5711 from 3K, some people, seeking superior quality, paid extra to replace its dial with SW dial, but this part of people also needed to order one Nautilus replica watch from 3K Factory first, and then do the dial modification. So, 3K was the only choice in the past. However, with the expiration of the exclusive movement agreement, now every factory can use this super clone 324 movement, just weeks ago, some new faces already appeared in the market and published the replicas Nautilus 5711, which were claimed to have better quality than 3K. These new faces include BBF, DDF and DF. Every of these new factories seem to know the weakness of the 3K Nautilus 5711, BBF is the most popular among these three, they did dial improvements, many reviewers said that BBF uses the SW Dial on 5711, actually this is not true, I compared both and found the difference between BBF dial and SW dial. DDF currently is doing upgrade on the watch and about to release the V2. While D Factory changed the movement and developed the free sprung balance, but with no weights. So currently the 5711 being mostly talked about is the one from BBF, many reviewers said it is much better than the one made by 3K.

Well, I do not agree. Perhaps in some details, BBF looks better, but a watch consists of a lot of parts that need to be assembled perfectly by an experienced watch master, BBF 5711 can not be better than 3K 5711 in every aspect, it is impossible. If you take both watches in hand and you will find some details on 3K are still better. A friend of mine also got BBF 5711 for his clients, but several his clients finally asked him to change to 3K 5711. So, sometimes when a factory said their watch is better than the one that has been in the market for years, do not rush to buy it, especially the watch from a new factory.

However, the appearance of these watches is a big challenge to 3K Factory. They will absolutely continue to make improvements on the Nautilus 5711, so currently it is not the right time to make the purchase, besides, I think 3K Factory will also improve the dial and movement engravings in future, if they won’t, they will lose this market, so I really expect a perfect version from 3K Factory.

The following pictures show the Nautilus 5711 from BBF.

VS Factory Day-Date

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VS Factory just published the Day-Date replica watch, and currently only this blue one is available, but my impression about this watch is it is too expensive.

In the market, if you decide to make the Day-Date replicas, you are facing several strong competitors, including GM, QF, THB, CBD and RC, as I mentioned before, the Day-Date from THB and CBD are not good, if do not consider them, you still need to think about how to beat the other threes, this is very hard, as far as I know, the Day-Date from GM, QF and RC has been accepted by most people, especially after the review on RC Day-Date at https://www.susanreviews.com/2025/07/28/rc-day-date-part-ii/, I highly recommend the Day-Date made by RC.

Now how about this Day-Date from VS Factory? First, its quality is good. Especially its bezel, which seems to have inherited the same improvement VS Factory just made on the bezel of their Datejust, the bezel reflection looks brighter, some people said VS coated real Platinum on the bezel, some said they just coated Rhodium, whatever, the bezel is more gen-like now. Second, this Day-Date from VS uses a real super clone 3255 movement, which is developed by DD movement factory. While the movement in the Day-Date made by other factories is SH3255, which is considered to be not a real super clone 3255 by a lot of watch fans, they think the SH3255 in both QF Day-Date and RC Day-Date is just modified on basis of the 3135. However, the SH3255 is also very stable and reliable, it is hidden behind a solid case back, I think it does not matter whether you choose a DD3255 or a SH3255.

This Day-Date from VS Factory has a weight of 146 grams, which is even lighter than the Day-Date from GM, not to mention compared with the Day-Date from RC. And the price of this VS Day-Date is only about 60 USD cheaper than the RC Day-Date, will you choose the Day-Date from VS? If I were you, I won’t, at least for now it is not the right time. Genuine Rolex Day-Date is made with precious metals like platinum or gold, so it is very heavy, the Day-Date made by RC Factory is 208 grams, which is very close to genuine weight, while this VS Day-Date is nearly 70 grams lighter than the genuine, this is a big difference in weight. So, to buy a quality Day-Date, I still suggest you buy from GM, QF or RC.

Will VS Factory make the Day-Date with gain weight? I think there is a strong possibility, after all their Day-Date has movement advantage when being compared with other manufacturers, this is a great chance for VS to penetrate the market. Currently I think people will still choose the Day-Date with heavier weight, after all their attention has been focused on the gain weight area for years, it won’t easily shift, the weight of a Rolex replica watch is now a more significant factor for people than in the past.

APS Factory wins

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Which Rolex replica watch looks closest to the genuine watch? This is a very easy question for many people. But when you ask which Richard Mille replica is the best, few people know. After years of development, the replicas of Richard Mille have higher and higher quality, if you are going to buy one, I suggest you choose from the three models, which are RM35-01, RM35-02 and RM055, these are also the three Richard Mille replicas which factories are competing fiercely with each other. For example, in the very beginning, about three or four years ago, no factories are making good quality replicas of Richard Mille RM35-02, some mod workshops like Sonic and ABD are making it secretly, later their watches are promoted in our market and more people knew them. Even the RM35-02 published by ZF later used the case developed by ABD that has very beautiful and real forged carbon texture. APS is the last factory to make the RM35-02, before that, we know they already produced the RM055, however, in this battle of RM35-02 between Sonic, ZF and APS, which factory finally wins? I think it is definitely APS.

Just two or three weeks ago, APS just published the replica RM35-02, with the newly developed movement made by DD. However, that movement has a hairspring regulator, which is a very noticeable flaw if checking the movement from the crystal back. You can see the picture below. Almost all movements from DD used in replica watches have this flaw, but that does not mean the movements are not good, on the contrary, they are more stable and accurate than most other movements in this industry. To my surprise, in less than a month, APS Factory carried out further improvement on this movement of the RM35-02, and they really did a free-sprung balance, now a true super clone RMAL1 movement came out, from APS only. And the latest version of RM35-02 with this super clone RMAL1 is called V2 now.

The extra regulator on the balance wheel.

Look at the pictures below, on top of the balance wheel, the regulator was removed and the weights are added on the balance wheel, the true free-sprung balance comes out. But this is not the first movement with free-sprung balance appeared in our market, some mod workshops are offering the service of free-sprung balance modification on many watches like Nautilus 5711, Aquanaut, Daytona, etc., but for this super clone RMAL1, this is the first movement with free-sprung balance formally made by a famous watch maker. Then how about its stability? You guys must concern, this still needs time to test, after all the movement just came out, if the modification is not good, the stability will be affected, I will keep you posted about this movement in future articles.

New RMAL1 Movement — New Movement with free-sprung balance

VS Factory Datejust V2

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There are no news about Clean Factory in the market, I do not think they will come back, if you found someone on the internet said that he can still get watches from Clean, please be careful, even the band and case back of the watches he show you have the same sticker as previous Clean Factory, please do not trust him, it is easy to get the factory’s sticker in the market. After the closure of Clean, two things happened next in the market, first, VS did a promotion on their Datejust watches in stock, the Datejust prices were slightly lowered down. Second, Q Factory published the increased weight version of Datejust, this is the first time for Q to produce Datejust, in the past, their famous products were Day-Date and Daytona. From these two things, we can see that Q and VS have started to compete the market share of super clone Rolex, I think more and more factories will enter the race later, after all this is a big cake left by Clean. Our watch fans hope that these factories can improve the watches, not just increasing the prices. And VS Factory just did an improvement on their Datejust, the improvement was firstly made on three Datejust 41mm models, black, blue and green with jubilee bracelet, the Datejust watches with other dial colors and other case size currently have not been applied with this improvement.

It is the first time for VS to made the improvement on their Datejust, I think this action from VS is related to the closure of Clean Factory, they badly want to be the number one in super clone Rolex field. This time, VS claims that they made several improvements, but I think the biggest and most obvious one lies in its bezel, on the new V2, the flutes on the bezel appear more three-dimensional, the entire bezel has a brighter and more reflective finish, VS claims that they use platinum coating on the bezel. By the way, the entire watch now has a weight of about 132.3 grams, which is 4 grams heavier than the old V1, so the V2 almost has the same weight as that of the genuine watch.

The pictures of V2 green Datejust II from VS.

Let’s talk about Q Factory, they also published the increased weight version of the Datejust, they have more models to choose, but the weight is too heavy, which is 148 grams, this is even heavier than the genuine watch. By the way, Q Factory claims that they use DD3235 in their Datejust, but this is not the real DD3235, it looks slightly different from the genuine DD3235 used by VS.

The weight of the Q Factory Datejust.

The difference between the 3235 in Q Factory Datejust and the DD3235 in VS Factory Datejust.

Please check the pictures below to see the difference, and you will know if the Datejust you are buying is equipped with a real DD3235 movement.

The right watch is from VS Factory and it uses real DD3235 movement. Please check the second picture, look at the red wheel, the left 3235 movement has a bright red wheel, while on the DD3235 movement, that wheel has a dark red color. This is the most obvious difference.

Tudor Black Bay Chrono M79360N M+F vs ZF

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This is the new arrival Black Bay chrono model from Tudor, which is M79360N, it has several dial color options, which are white, black, blue, pink, flamingo blue. Currently in the market, several factories are making the replicas, they are TW, BLS, M+ and Z, today, I will make a comparison between M+ and Z.

The left watch is from M+, the right watch is from Z. After being exposed to strong light, the lume coating on the hour markers of both watches looks slightly green, not pure white.

The markers on the bezel, including the “UNITS PER HOUR” and those numbers, they are slightly thicker on M+, the left watch is from M+.

On the left M+ Tudor, the stainless steel ring of the bezel is slightly higher than the black insert, while on Z Factory, the black insert and the stainless steel edge are aligned horizontally. M+ Factory makes this detail correct.

The crystal stands higher on the right watch from Z Factory, which is more like genuine watch.

This is the dial of M+ Tudor, the white dial looks smooth and the frosted finish is not obvious. On this picture, the slightly green lume coating on hour markers and hands is more obvious.

The sanded finish on the Z Factory Tudor is more obvious. Z Factory Tudor is closer to genuine watch in this detail.

The digits on the small dials of Z Factory look silver, which is closer to that of genuine watch. On M+ Tudor, the digits look whiter.

Date

On M+, the date window features a deeply stepped design.

The date window on the Tudor from Z Factory features a much shallower stepped design.

On this picture, the date wheel on the right watch from Z Factory is closer to the dial. While the left Tudor watch from M+ has a thicker date font.

Some date fonts on the Z Factory Tudor are noticeably off-center.

On the M+ Tudor Black Bay, the date number is well aligned.

On ZF Tudor, the printing of “SWISS MADE” is thinner.

On M+, the SWISS MADE has a thicker font.

Movement

Both factories use an Asia clone valjoux 7750 movement on this Tudor replica watch, this movement is absolutely not as stable as DD3135, DD3235 and DD4130, but if you do not operate its chronograph function so often, this movement also does not have issues in daily wearing and can work for many years.

Conclusion

In finishing this replica Tudor, Z and M+ has their own advantages, I can not say which one is better, after checking the comparison between the two watches, which one you prefer? By the way, the clasp on M+ can be locked more secure, while on the Tudor of Z Factory, the clasp is too easy to be opened. And if you want a flamingo blue or a pink model, do not buy from Z Factory, they make these two models with a wrong dial color.

BBF Patek Philippe Cubitus 5821

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In the past several months, the Cubitus from Patek Philippe must be a hot topic in this industry, because everyone is looking for a super clone of this watch, however, after the release of the replica watch by two factories, which are TW and PPF, people seem no longer to be interested in the replica Patek Philippe Cubitus, because nobody asked me where to get a replica Cubitus watch again. Have their needs been satisfied by purchasing the watch? Or they are still waiting for the launch of the best version by some factory? Today, I am going to give a short review on the replica Cubitus 5821 made by BBF.

About BBF, few people know this factory, they are not famous in this industry, but only known for making good quality replica Hublot Unico watches. I thought BBF is another name which PPF uses to make other watches, but after seeing this Cubitus watch made by them, I was wrong. This replica Cubitus 5821 made by BBF has two big flaws, according to my experience, PPF won’t make these two obvious flaws when producing the replicas. However, I am surprised that BBF uses a super clone 330 movement on this replica, you know, this movement was only authorized to be used by 3K, its predecessor is 324 movement that was developed by 3K Factory years ago. Someone said the sole authorization to use this movement is no longer valid, so 3K will not be the only factory to use this movement in future.

Patek Philippe Cubitus 5821 Two Tone Replica

Measuring the watch from left to right, the crown not included, it is about 43.4mm, from top to bottom, it is 44.3mm. The case thickness is about 8.5mm, which is slightly thicker than that of the genuine. The entire watch has a weight of 128 grams.

The blue color on the dial is very good. The first big flaw lies in its date window, I think it is slightly smaller than that on the genuine watch. One some date fonts, part of the font’s bottom edge is hidden by the frame of the window. I do not know if all samples coming out of the factory have this issue, or just the one on my hand.

The lume coating on the hands and hour markers are maintained in the same tone, no color difference. The printings of “PATEK PHILIPPE” and “GENEVE” have the same font thickness as that of the genuine, but not that tri-dimensional like on the genuine.

Another big flaw lies on the bracelet, on the middle golden links, only the front and back are plated with gold, the parts at left and right sides are stainless steel, if you check carefully, you will find this flaw.

To be honest, for this watch, I feel a bit disappointed, because some details not perfectly made, after all it is the first Cubitus replica with a super clone movement.

RC Day-Date Part II

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In my last post about the Day-Date from RC factory, I have already made a brief review on their Day-Date watches, please read it at https://www.susanreviews.com/2025/06/30/rc-day-date/, RC is a new maker in the increased weight Rolex Day-Date field, too many factories are making this type of Rolex replicas, every factory is saying their watches are very good, but a lot of customers have been scammed, today, let me talk more about the Day-Date from RC. In future, I will keep an eye on their watches and share my final thoughts here.

Before my today’s work, I want to say something, that is some factories are cheating customers with exaggerated or false claims. Take the Day-Date from CBD factory as an example. In their advertising, I remember they said their Day-Date will not have the issue of case peeling off, but after checking the finish of the bracelet, you will see they are lying. Please check the first picture below, these links were taken off from a Day-Date made by CBD. It is a golden watch, but each link is not fully gold plated, besides, there are two layers of each link, you can see obvious gap, the inner material is probably tungsten steel and the outer is wrapped with stainless steel, the two types of materials can not fuse into a single piece, so cracks form between them. So, when CBD said their Day-Date would not have the peeling off issue, it is a lie.

CBD Day-Date Bracelet Links — The bracelet links on CBD Day-Date, not good, and the bracelet is too thick

Next, let us see the Day-Date from RC Factory, in my opinion, currently their Day-Date looks better than the one made by THB and CBD, which both have the peeling off issue. Their prices are too expensive, so not worth purchasing. Currently the Day-Date from RC looks good and worth a try. Besides, the increased weight Day-Date from GM and QF is also worth buying and is the most cost efficient.

The weight of the whole watch is about 208.3 grams, this is a golden Day-Date, the gold tone looks nice, not shiny and looks very close to the golden color on genuine Rolex.

The case is not thick, it is about 12.3mm to 12.6mm. I thought it will be much thicker, but after measuring the actual watch, the case has not been thickened.

The case of the watch is about 102 grams, it is 101.8 grams.

The movement inside is a SH3255, after opening the case back and I weigh the case, it comes to 102.1 grams.

The case back is 27.7 grams, it has been added with extra weight on basis of a common case back.

The bracelet has a weight of 106.1 grams.

The weight of the clasp.

Each link has a weight of 3.2 grams.

Each link is fully plated with gold, no stainless steel part you can see, no cracking gap on the link, this is much better than that on CBD Day-Date. So, what are the materials used by them to make the bracelet? They are integraded very well.

This is my second review on the RC Day-Date, I think it is a good watch, however, we still need more time to see if their watch will have the issue of peeling off, I will follow up on this and share my third review.

Susan Reviews on Replica Watches

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About Nautilus 5711 Replicas

VS Factory Day-Date

APS Factory wins

VS Factory Datejust V2

Tudor Black Bay Chrono M79360N M+F vs ZF

BBF Patek Philippe Cubitus 5821

RC Day-Date Part II