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How to know if your Datejust is from VS Factory?

Currently there are two big things in the market, first, it is about the Clean Plus factory. Second, it is about VS factory, which is their Rolex watches are too hot, often out of stock, people who are going to order their Rolex especially Datejust usually need to wait. After the closure of Clean, VS published V2 Datejust 2, which helped them dominate this market immediately, for people who want the best Datejust 2, I also recommend VS.

Before the closure of Clean, I said this factory has started to use the DD3235 movement in their Datejust, it is a new DD3235 that has 27 bearing balls, now VS also uses this new DD3235 movement in their Datejust 2, many dealers saying the new DD3235 is much better than the old version when they promoting VS watches, so this brings a problem, which is a lot of customers then insist on buying the watch with that new movement, however, VS factory hasn’t actually used this new movement in every watch, both the old and new movement are randomly used, and both movements have the same quality in my opinion.

The VS Datejust is so hot, some dealers deceive customers by selling them other factories Datejust as VS Factory models, to avoid being scammed, today I will show you a feature of the clasp on VS Datejust to help tell if the watch is from VS.

Please use a magnifier to observe the letter “A” on the engravings of the clasp.

Letter E

On VS Datejust, the letter “A” in word “GENEVA” and “MADE” has a flat top. The letter “E” in “MADE”, its middle bar is slightly shorter than the top and bottom ones.

Pointed A

On the clasp of the Datejust from other factory, the engravings look somewhat shallow, and the letter “A” has a more pointed top.

Rolex SA
This is the engraving of “ROLEXS.A.” on VS Datejust.

Datejust Clean Plus vs Clean

A new factory named Clean Plus just appeared in the market, we talked about it before, some people say it is Clean and they are back to the business, some people say it is not the original Clean Factory, so the hottest thing we are discussing about is whether the new Clean Plus is still the same previous Clean Factory. Now Clean Plus has released Datejust, YachtMaster and Daytona, I think they will publish more watches next.

Clean Factory has been closed for a while, people are still looking for Clean watches, I do hope Clean Plus can make the same quality watches as Clean, or even better quality. But after checking the Datejust from Clean Plus, I found their quality is still not the same as that of Clean.

There are two Datejust watches above, the left one is from Clean Plus, the right one is from Clean.

Datejust Crystal Clean Plus vs Clean

First, check the crystal, it is lower on Clean Plus, while on the right Clean Datejust, the crystal stands a little higher.

Date Clean Plus vs Clean

Second, the date wheel is different. Check the date font on the left Datejust from Clean Plus, it is a little thicker.

Buckle Clean Plus vs Clean

Third, the Rolex Crown logo on the buckle is different, I like the one on the right watch from Clean.

Clasp Clean plus vs clean

Fourth, the clasp engraving is different. On the top, it is the clasp on Clean. The engraving is bigger and deeper. On the bottom clasp, the letter ‘O’ is more like a digit 0.

Clean Plus 3235

Clean Plus uses DD3235 movement, this is good, as far as I know, they also use DD3235 in the Titanium YachtMaster and DD4131 in Daytona.

Conclusion

Clean Plus is not the original Clean Factory. Take the Datejust as an example, some watch parts like date wheel and bracelet on Clean Plus are different from that of Clean. Currently the best option for Datejust is still VS V2.

Holiday News

It is our National Day holiday, which will end on October 8th, but the factories will accept orders after today. In these days, one thing mostly discussed in the watch market is that Clean Factory has been back to the business, they changed a new name, which is Clean Plus, did you buy from them? I heard that this is not the same factory as before, at least the watch assemblers are not the same ones that served in Clean before, so the quality may not be the same. In recent days, many new models appeared in the market, most of them are from APS, including the Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin, which is a new model from JLC, AZ Facyory made the old model before, now APS published the replica, which is equipped with the same super clone 938, the watch looks great, the case thickness is close to that of genuine, the functions on the replica also work, but I do not suggest you buy it, because the movement stability is not improved, it is the only replica watch with super clone movement which I do not recommend, when I introduced the story of APS Factory, I mentioned this movement, it has a high repairing rate.

APS Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin

This watch look really nice, it is said that the 938 movement in genuine watch is also not very stable, is that correct? Is there anyone here that has bought the genuine watch?

Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Replica Watch

The left stainless steel watch looks classic, but I like the rose gold one more on the right.

Replica Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Stainless Steel
Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Power Reserve

In original position, you can rotate the crown to wind the watch, I just did this, I winded, please notice the small hand on the power reserve indicator at 10:00, it moves from 1/4 to 1/2. No need to fully wind the watch because when you wear the watch on your hand, the auto rotor will move to gain energy.

JLC Date Regulator
Date Adjustment

At 2:00 on the case, there is a button for you to push with a tool to adjust the date, which is displayed on the round small dial at 2 o’clock. The factory offers that tool for free.

JLC 938 Movement

On the replica, the engravings on the movement plates look shallow, not deeply engraved.

Black Leather Band on JLC
Deployant Clasp
Quick Release

Whether the stainless steel model or the rose gold model, they are all equipped with a calfskin leather band with quick release system. The band feels a little bit stiff, but you can buy and replace with a genuine aligator leather band. The stainless steel watch comes with a deployant clasp.

Pin Buckle

The rose gold watch comes with a pin buckle.

Hands Finish

On the central hour hand and minute hand, there are two sides, one is polished, the other is matte finished.

The second news is about V7, some people said it got raided on September 30th, but some people said they are fine, they still offer watches.

The third news is about VS. This factory has been very busy after the closure of Clean, their business is booming, now in mens Rolex Datejust field, the boss is VS, no others can compete with them especially the V2 came out.

V2 Datejust from VS has six models now, including the blue, green, gray, black, green rome and the blue one with rome markers.

Plastic Bag

The plastic bag on V2 Datejust now has an elephant sticker.

Rolex Card

Each watch will come with a card, which is upgraded, with a golden edge now.

There are also other features about the new V2 Datejust from VS, I introduced them before, please check them at https://www.susanreviews.com/2025/08/18/vs-factory-datejust-v2/.

About VS GMT-Master II

Last time, I introduced the GMT-Master II Pepsi from VS Factory in article https://www.susanreviews.com/2025/06/16/vs-factory-gmt-master-pepsi/, I said some advantages of their GMT-Master II when being compared with the one from Clean, but yesterday, I found my opinions are wrong, later I will explain this. Today, I will show you some new GMT-Master II watches which VS factory just published, they include Batman, Pepsi and Sprite, please see pictures below, the oyster bracelet version and jubilee bracelet version available.

The first GMT-Master II Sprite with green dial, only AR and THB made it before, but they use SH3285 movement, if you want the best one, I recommend this one from VS Factory, they use DD3285 movement, and Clean Factory does not make this watch.

GMT-Master II Sprite Green Dial
GMT-Master II Sprite Black Dial
GMT-Master II Pepsi
GMT-Master II Batgirl

Now, back to the thing I mentioned in the first paragraph. When VS Factory firstly published the Pepsi GMT-Master II, I made a short review and thought it is much better than the one made by Clean. Just yesterday, I realized I shouldn’t think this way. In promoting their GMT-Master II, VS indeed claimed their GMT-Master is better than the ones made by other watch makers in the market, a lot of watch distributors also reviewed this watch in the videos to explain what advantages it has in every aspect when being compared with the one from Clean, they said VS GMT-Master II is much better than the one from Clean. Now I do not agree with this view.

First, both GMT-Master II Pepsi watches from Clean and VS are close to the genuine watch. This is what I think right now. Clean uses an older genunine watch to make the replica, while VS uses a newer genuine watch to make the replica, VS said they refer to the designs of the new watch published in 2022. I do not know what are the differences between the old version and new version on the same watch published by Rolex. However, some watch dealers said VS GMT-Master Pepsi is closer to the genuine watch than Clean version, this is totally wrong.

Second, Clean Factory has been making the GMT-Master replicas for years, VS just started to produce them, can VS surpass Clean right from the start? Impossible. Many dealers said the GMT-Master II Pepsi has surpassed the one made by Clean in all aspects, can you believe this nonsense?

Third, just like I said before, to get the DD3285 movement, VS will share part of their DD3235 movements with Clean, now some Datejust watches from Clean factory being equipped with DD3235 movement has appeared in the market, see the pictures of Datejust and movement below. Between Clean and VS, looks like they’ve got some under-the-table deal going on, like saying VS GMT-Master II is better than Clean is allowed in this industry.

Clean Green Datejust
Clean Datejust Jubilee
Clean Datejust Green 3235
Clean Datejust Rehaut
Clean Datejust Crown
Clean Datejust Case Back
Clean Datejust Bracelet
Clean Datejust Clasp
Clean DD3235 Movement

Top Ten Best Sellers in 2024

2024 is an important year both for our watch makers and watch fans, we welcomed a lot of new models that have been made with breakthrough watch-making technology. The absolute protagonists in last year are VS and APS, we do not deny that Clean still occupies the largest market share in Rolex field, but VS has already caught up, and APS indeed brought us many surprises. Hope they can release more super clones in future.

1.Clean Factory V3 GMT-Master II Pepsi

For this GMT-Master II Pepsi, it has been improved by Clean Factory for two times, now the latest version is V3. Upon V2, the biggest improvement lies in its ceramic bezel, it is said that the color has been corrected to look closest to that of genuine, while some persons still like the bezel color on V2, still a bit controversial, however, there are still a large amount of watch fans chose to buy this V3 from Clean. By the way, I also only recommend Clean if you want super clone Rolex GMT-Master.

2.VS Factory Daytona 126500

For the new 12xxxx series Daytona, VS Factory has the best movement, Clean has the most complete collection. Since the last upgrade VS has made on hands of 126500, the sales of their Daytona 126500 suddenly improved. This Daytona 126500 from VS is equipped with a super clone 4131 from Dandong, which is supposed to be better than the Shanghai version used by Clean.

3.Clean Factory Daytona 116518

With a yellow gold case, ceramic bezel and black rubber band, this Daytona is one of the best-selling Daytona replicas from Clean. For the sales of Daytona in the market, Clean still occupies the biggest market share, the competition between VS and Clean in this area is still fierce. Actually, every Daytona made by Clean can be put onto this top ten list, they are really perfect clones.

4.Day-Date Heavy Version

I put this watch here just because the heavy version of Day-Date Rolex is really popular, in the past year, many people were asking the weight of a Rolex they were going to buy. And today in Day-Date field, more and more people are participating in the production of heavy versions of Day-Date Rolex replicas, including GM, QF, K, CBD, THB, etc., customers are also more confused than before. Well, currently I recommend two watch makers, GM and THB. GM is the earliest factory that makes the heavy version, they have price advantage, THB has a high price, but they use super clone 3255, the finish is better.

5.PP Factory Nautilus 5712 V3

The 5712 made by PP or Z has been upgraded to V3, with super clone 240 movement and new clasp. We can see that Nautilus moon phase 5712 from PP is very popular in the market, many dealers provide extra service to upgrade its dial with SW Dial and Hands, just like they do on Nautilus 5711 from 3K.

6.VS Factory Grey Datejust with Jubilee Bracelet

You can buy this Datejust from VS or Clean, both versions are very good. I more recommend Clean version before, but modded watches are very hot today, more people buy this Datejust from VS Factory and then made some modifications, for example, replacing its bezel, dial and hands with the bezel, dial and hands from genuine, this is a great idea, and this won’t cost you too much. The super clone DD3235 movement allows watch fans to to this job.

7.APS Factory RM055

Richard Mille has been very hot in the past two years, APS Factory made big improvements on the RM replicas, especially on the model RM055. This RM055 soon became the best seller in Richard Mille field once being published by APS.

8.APS Factory AP 15407

More AP watches can be put in this position, such as 15400, 15500 and 15720 from APS, but people seemed to be paying more attention to the AP 15407 in past year, since that, APS made a big improvement on the balance wheel of this watch. Many watch fans are still not satisfied yet and seeking for trusted source that could add double working balance wheel, it can be done, but too expensive.

9.QF Daytona Le Mans

QF is the watch maker that produced this Daytona, they provide two versions, regular weight version and heavy weight version. I do not suggest you buy the heavy weight version, because they added extra links to increase the weight. By the way, Clean Factory will also publish the Le Mans Daytona soon.

10.3K Factory Nautilus 5711

This watch deserves a more forward position, it is a very popular watch in modded watch market, many people bought this watch from 3K, replacing its dial, hand and date wheel with SW Dial, Hand and Date Wheel, it seems like more and more people are accepting this modded watch now.

There are a lot of other watches that were also sold very well in the market, especially Rolex watches, there are too many, Submariner, Datejust, Daytona, they can even make a top 10 or top 20, every Rolex coming from VS and Clean should be a super clone, no doubt about this. Every one has their own top 10, I can not include every best seller in this list.

THB Factory 31mm Datejust

Do you want a super clone lady Rolex? Sometimes readers on my blog asked me where to get a super clone Rolex for their wife, or which factory makes the best Rolex for ladies. I could not answer such question because no lady Rolex watches can match the quality of mens Rolex at that time, simply speaking, there were no super clones of lady Rolex.

Some super clone Datejust with diamonds and MOP dial look feminine and gorgeous, but they are 36mm and 41mm, too big. Few factories make good quality replicas of lady Rolex in our market, BP, TW and GS make some, EW factory also made before, but this factory was closed. BP is a very old factory, they make almost every Rolex watch, but their quality is not top, I think it is middle, even slightly lower than middle quality, but BP has a large collection. About TW, I do not know if this is a watch factory because a lot of replica watches are labeled with TW sticker, this is weird. Watches from TW do not have outstanding finish, prices are also not high, so they can be accepted by most people. About GS, they make 28mm and 31mm Datejust, their quality is slightly higher than the ones from BP.

Just two weeks ago, THB announced that they will produce 31mm Datejust replica watches, about THB, there is little information about this factory, actually I confirmed that this is a branch of APS. APS has been making Rolex replica watches for more than one year, including Daytona, GMT-Master and YachtMaster, but their Rolex watches do not sell well in the market, so I think this is the reason why they start to make some different Rolex watches under a new name. They made some Day-Date 40mm in the beginning, then published a new upgraded AP 15407, which is highly recommended. The 31mm Datejust from THB should be the best one in our market, this can be called super clone, they are equipped with clone ETA 2671 automatic movement. If they can continue to improve the quality and launch more high quaity Rolex replicas for ladies, this will help APS have a firm footing in the marketplace of Rolex.

QF Day-Date vs GM Day-Date

Q Factory is very hot in this year because of their Day-Date, but GM is the first factory to produce such quality replicas of Day-Date, today, I will make a simple comparison review between the two Day-Date watches I got from both factories. One Day-Date with a green dial is from QF, the other one with a ice blue dial is from GM, the QF Day-Date with a sticker is the left one on my hand. Actually, this comparison is not very meaningful because these are two different Day-Date models, people always compare the aspects between two same watches, I know that, but it is very difficult to get the same two watches from both watch makers at the same time, especially ordering from GM Factory, it almost took almost one month for me to order this Day-Date from them, very frustrating, so I will make a review between two different watches. Another thing is that I learned one thing from someone in this industry, that QF is also operated by the same team as GM, which means both QF and GM are actually the same factory, I can not believe at the start, but after comparing these two watches, I was convinced. These two watches have the same finish on the case and bracelet, the movement is also the same, which is clone ETA 2836, the only difference is that QF one is heavier, and QF Day-Date has a sticker wrapped around the bracelet, on the back of GM Day-Date, there is always a letter “A” in blue. I also heard that GM is actually operated by BP, do you know this factory? BP is one of the oldest watch makers in this industry, they only made affordable Rolex replicas in the past, now the Day-Date offered under their GM and QF is helping them to open up another market. However, BP has never admitted that GM and QF are theirs. The following are pictures comparison between the two Rolex watches.

QF Day-Date vs GM Day-Date

New Datejust from Clean

Now in super clones field of Rolex, the two giants are Clean and VS, the watches coming from Clean almost cover each series of Rolex, while VS also makes replicas of a lot of Rolex watches, but not including the Daytona. I hope VS factory can make Daytona in 2024, because I want to see what improvements can still be made on the Daytona.

The absolute advantage of Clean is its Daytona, BT still can not compete with them. The absolute advantage of VS lies in its Dandong 3235 movement, this is the key factor why VS still can compete with Clean in the Rolex replica field. Because of the Dandong 3235, many people have a buying misunderstanding, which is the watch is the best as long as it uses a Dandong 3235 movement, the Datejust is an example, but Clean also makes super clones of Datejust, I think both have the same quality level. Now the only problem is that ordering a Datejust from both factories will take a long time. Clean and VS have published a lot Datejust replica watches, but both factories only keep several popular models in stock. The following pictures show some new Datejust watches that were just published by Clean, but if you want to order anyone of them, I am afraid you need to wait for several weeks.

These new models are in two tone style, there are yellow gold and rose gold, the bracelet also has Oyster and Jubilee options, among them, I like the two with mother-of-pearl diamond dial and the one with light pink dial. They are perfect new year gifts for women who love big watches.

There are indeed differences you can see on the Datejust watches between VS and Clean, but I can not tell you which factory is the best because I have not seen genuine watches. However, for a specific model like black, blue or silver one, perhaps one factory does better in some details than the other factory, you need to ask advice from your dealer, but VS Datejust has a longer power reserve, which is about 60 hours, while on Clean Datejust, the power reserve is only about 40 hours.

Clean New Datejust
Clean Datejust Pink
Clean Datejust MOP

About golden Rolex

I found I have fallen in love with golden Rolex, the feeling is so strange, I do not like them before, but they have attracted my attention in recent weeks, maybe it is because of me, which is no longer young, and sometimes I find the golden Rolex looks so beautiful and mature on me. A lot of people probably like golden Rolexs too, in Rolex collection, most golden models come from their Datejust and Day-Date, many factories are making replicas of golden Rolex, I do not want to talk those cheap ones made by small factories that are only sold less than 100 US Dollars, these are the lowest grade, do not be cheated by their “AAA” mark on the crystal face. Some people emailed and told me that they bought a great AAA replica before, and now wanted to buy another one, when I sent photos to them, they found there is no “AAA” mark on the crystal, I explained the one introduced by me is the best, much higher quality than the AAA, they doubted. Back to today’s topic, I am going to talk about the best golden replicas of Rolex Datejust and Day-Date, which factories make them? Actually you do not have too many choices.

Every person who is going to buy a golden replica Rolex must care most about its gold layer. In our market, for golden Datejust, the best and only option is GM factory. They have two versions, gold plated and wrapped gold, the latter has a thicker gold layer and also a higher price. If you have ever bought a wrapped gold Rolex from GM factory and still not satisfied with it, then ask your watch dealer to help increase the thickness of gold layer next time when you want another golden Rolex, some stores can do this work in our market. For golden Day-Date, the best option is still GM factory, but they only have the gold plated version. By the way, EW factory also makes some golden Rolex, but not too many, and quality is not as good as GM.

So, my conclusion is just go with GM factory if you want the best golden Rolex, so, no longer confused by a lot other choices. At last, I want to share a news here, it is about CR factory, they do not offer watches now. In one of my previous posts, I explained that CR factory makes good quality golden Rolex replicas, now unfortunately we lost it.

Golden Rolex Day-Date
Golden Rolex Day-Date Black Dial
Golden Rolex Day-Date Crown
Golden Rolex Day-Date Case
Golden Rolex Day-Date Bracelet
Golden Rolex Day-Date Case Back

GM Factory Replica Rolex Datejust 36mm Palm Leaf Dial with 3235 Movement

Replica Rolex Datejust Palm Leaf

I have not seen new Rolex replicas coming from our market for months, the raiding indeed has affected our watch business, it will be harder for us in next two years, but I think there will be solutions, because the need people for replica watches does exist, and always very large. This new Rolex I am going to share with you is a Datejust from GM factory, it has a case diameter of 36mm, the greatest feature of this watch lies in its dial, which is full of patterns of palm tree leaves, it is the first time for me to see such a Rolex Datejust whose dial has leaves patterns, the watch looks a little strange, and I can not imagine who will be interested in it.

Replica Rolex Datejust Green Leaf
Rolex Datejust Palm Leaf

This Datejust is made by GM, this factory now makes the best quality Datejust replica Rolex, because Noob is closed, and VS can not offer any Datejust watches, as far as I know, VS factory is closed again since last open, they can not offer any Rolex watches and Panerai watches, however, some dealers in the market maybe have some VS watches, but they sell them at high prices. Besides GM, EW and BP, I do not know which factory can offer Rolex Datejust watches normally.

Rolex Datejust Green Leaf Dial

Whether from watch material or inside movement, this watch is first class, it is made with 904L stainless steel, the real 904L, the finish on case and bracelet is also top quality, actually the progress in finish of replica watches is huge in recent years, I can not feel the difference when holding a replica and a genuine watch, and compare them, maybe the biggest difference lies in some subtle details on dial and engravings, which are hard to be noticed, but if you check carefully, you will find.

Rolex Datejust Steel case
Rolex Datejust Crown

The palm tree leaves dial looks very interesting, Datejust positions itself as a dress watch, to wear in some formal occasions, while this Datejust is absolutely not designed for such occasions, its dial is too fancy, olive green color with palm leaves, I can not even see the printings, it is the new style dial Rolex published,you can see a crown logo between “SWISS” and “MADE”, on the dial of previous old Datejust, there is no such crown feature. Although I do not like this watch, I still many people are still willing to wear it with their casual beach clothes when in a bar with their girlfriend.

Rolex Datejust Case Back
Rolex Datejust Crown Buckle