Replica Rolex Datejust Diamond Watch – Brilliant as Precious Stone

Replica Rolex Datejust 41mm Two Tone

Among all dress watches brands, Rolex Datejust is the best selling model. This series of Rolex has a wide range of styles in mens and ladies size, each differs from each other in bezel, dial and bracelet style. You can always find the right Datejust watch that mostly suits yourself, to cope for some formal occasions. Today on my blgo, I will introduce a replica Rolex Datejust, it looks so brilliant because of its yellow gold tone and diamond dial, it is in 41mm but also very suitable for women who love big watches, the diamonds on dial could highlight the temperament of women. The following article will discuss the replica Rolex in detail.

Replica Rolex 41mm Two Tone Watch

Movement: Swiss ETA 2836 Automatic, Not Clone ETA, More Reliable
Case: 41mm, Two Tone Style, 18K Gold Wrapped, Fluted Bezel
Crystal: Sapphire
Dial: Black with Diamond Hour Markers
Bracelet: Two Tone Jubilee Bracelet
Water Resistant: 50m

Replica Rolex Datejust Two Tone Style

The replica is made by Noob, which specilizes in manufacturing high end Swiss replica Rolex watches. This factory does a good job in case polishing, which uses two different processing ways, the case lugs are polished and the part connecting bracelet is brushed. Polished lugs are smooth and have a certain arc degree, so the case fits you hand perfectly. Fluted bezel has the same amount of grooves as genuine, the 18k yellow gold coated on bezel is thick, never fade, so it is on the bracelet.

Replica Rolex 41mm Black Dial

The dial looks big, white letterings on black dial background. The date window at 3 o’clock shows black date on white background. The most precious part on the replica lies in its diamond hour markers, box-shaped markers with one diamond set in the center, whose brilliance exactly echoes with the yellow gold tone. I love simple dial style and it looks so generous.

Replica Rolex Datejust Crown

The most important watch part is the movement. This replica Rolex Datejust is equipped with a Swiss ETA 2836 automatic movement, which is the best movement used by replica watches. However, because the replica uses 18k gold, diamonds and Swiss ETA 2836 movement, it is sold at a high price. If you like this replica watch, please contact me, I will send one original Rolex box as a free gift, only available for top five buyers.

Replica Rolex Datejust Green Sticker on Back

Rolex Datejust Jubilee Bracelet

Rolex Datejust Clasp Engraving

New V8 Rolex Submariner 116610 Replica Watch Published By Noob Factory

Noob V8 Rolex Submariner Black

Submariner 116610 is one of the best-selling Rolex watches, it also becomes the mostly replicated Rolex in our market. There are basically three factories Noob, BP and J12 that replicate Rolex Submariner 116610. Among them, Noob makes the best replica Rolex Submariner 116610. This factory has updated the watch several times, now, the latest model has become perfect, you do not need to say, a lot of readers asked me which watch is the best replica, from now on, this Rolex Submariner 116610 is the best one. It is undeniable that there are also many other good replicas such as PAM 441, PAM 111 and IWC Mark, but this replica Rolex Submariner 116610 uses the best watch material and is equipped with the most stable super clone 3135 movement. If you are searching for a replica that could last for several years, this watch is absolutely the best choice.

V8 Rolex Submariner 116610 Black

Noob factory firstly uses the highest grade of stainless steel in replica Rolex, yes, it is 904L, which is only used genuine Rolex watches. Now Noob imported this grade 904L stainless steel and used in the case finishing of the 116610, this is a great development, you can also called it another milestone in our replica watch industry. And I think we can do much better in the future, the replica Rolex will be exactly the same as genuine in some day. Because the case and bracelet are made of solid 904L stainless steel, the replica has the same weight as genuine 116610. The case is evenly brushed, with round edge that is smoothly polished, no uncomfortable feeling when wearing the watch. The bezel has a real black ceramic insert, platinum engravings have correct depth.

V8 Rolex Submariner 116610 Ceramic Bezel

On black dial, every one focus on three subtle features, which are dial lume, date font and etched crown. Yes, I have to say this replica has all these three features set correct. First, genuine Swiss Superlume material is applied on the hour markers, hands and pearl dot, the dial lume looks strong blue, long lasting. The dial lume color is the same as genuine Rolex Submariner. Second, the date window has black font in white background, the magnifier above the window is 2.5X, besides, date font has the same thickness of font on genuine model. The last thing you will concern is the etched crown, yes, at a certain angle, you can see the tiny crown in sapphire crystal at 6 o’clock. In a word, this replica 116610 has the most accurate dial details.

V8 Rolex Submariner 116610 904L Case

Last thing is the movement inside, the Rolex Submariner 116610 replica is equipped with a Super Copy Cal.3135, actually this movement has been used in replica watches since 2012. Now, it has been modified several times, updated to have blue steel spring, timing is more accurate, all components of the movement could be interchanged with original Calibre 3135. Auto rotor and movement bridges are also engraved with original Geneva Stripes. After being modified each time, the stability and durability of Super Copy Cal.3135 will be improved greatly. Yes, this replica Rolex just gathers all advantages, the price is also a little expensive, if you are interested in buying one, just leave a comment here and I will contact you through EMAIL. Thank you.

V8 Rolex Submariner 116610 Black Case Back

V8 Rolex Submariner 116610 Clasp

Replica Tag Heuer Aquaracer WAY2112.BA0928 Watch Review

Replica Tag Heuer WAY2112.BA0928

Tag Heuer Aquaracer Blue Replica

Tag Heuer Aquaracer Stainless Steel Replica

Man always can find their suitable stainless steel TAG HEUER watch, which is always classic and stands for good taste. As a flagship series of TAG HEUER, Aquaracer always attract their fans in its shape, design and functions. Diving watch has become one of the main series for famous Swiss watch brands, TAG HEUER Aquaracer is one of them, and this WAY2112.BA0928 is so representative. Here I bring you a replica model which is made out of 1:1 model, which is as same as per original in every aspect.

Tag Heuer Aquaracer Crown

Tag Heuer Aquaracer Case

The most attractive thing on this watch at my first sight much be its blue dial, and the charming horizontal strip texture. There is an triangle mark at 12:00, and other marks are in trapezoid. Also, there is a trapezoid in super-lume on the second hand, making it so special. The date indicator is at 3:00 position. Below 12:00 triangle mark, there is TAG HEUER’s logo, looking into it I can see it is done as the way as original. Hour, minute, second and date can be adjusted via its crown easily. All marks and needles are in super-lume, well-equipped for reading the time when in dark situation or while diving. The case and bezel are made of high class 316 stainless steel, bezel is one-way rotation. There are six convex pins on the bezel, I can see the polished work has done very good on every part. This diving watch has an very elegant case that is 40.5mm, not so aggressive like other huge diving watches.

Tag Heuer Aquaracer Case BackTag Heuer Aquaracer Buckle

The Noob factory provide two different option in movement for this replica TAG HEUER Aquaracer watch, Seagull 2824 or Swiss 2824. Both of the two can ensure precise time, depending on your preference. The back case is also made of stainless steel, and it is sealed up for better waterproof function. The bracelet is also made of the same good quality stainless steel. On both of the back case and clasp, there are engraving information and logo of the model, exactly the same as per genuine. This is not a very complicated diving watch, but it is a classic one for man, it would be your priority if you are looking for a TAG HEUER or diving watch.

Tag Heuer Aquaracer Clasp

Noob Factory Ultimate Replica Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore 15706 Diver Carbon Watch Review

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Carbon Fibre Replica

Audemars Piguet 15706 Carbon Replica

Audemars Piguet 15706 Carbon Case

I have got you guys a surprise today, I am bringing you a top-grade edition of replica Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore Diver watch from Noob, and this is a V3 edition released from this professional watch manufacturer. From material to the shape mould, Audemars Piguet watch from Noob is 1:1 replica as per original. I am amazed to see its high quality look and all the perfect details, and then I can’t wait to show you this fantastic watch. If you are looking for a really good replica watch with a light body which you can wear for swimming or any casual occasions, here is your best choice.

Audemars Piguet 15706 Crown

AR Coating on Audemars Piguet 15706 Carbon Replica

It seems this is a very heavy sporty watch with a 42mm*14mm case until I hold it in my hand, it is so light that It shows 120g on the scale. The case is made with a mould that as same as the original, material is super great carbon fibre, the quality and function is the same as per genuine. The whole watch is only 120g, including the strap and clasp, and this is really a good news that we have a better choice than that heavy stainless steel watches. The bezel is made of new ceramic material, wearable and smooth surface. And, it has been brass on the bezel front and polished at the side. There are eight screws on the bezel to fix the bezel, case and the back case together. Here I have to explain the carbon fibre forging manufacturing technique to you. The forging carbon fibre case’s characters includes light, hard and strong, it has excellent mechanic and stable chemical features. Audemars Piguet adopted forging technique on watch manufacture firstly, the carbon fibre case is made from high pressure and temperature. And this technique requires very complicated technology. I have to say Noob did a great job on this too, because this replica Royla Offshore has the same case as per original!

Audemars Piguet 15706 Case Back

Audemars Piguet 15706 Titanium Clasp

On the black dial, there is large check pattern on the background, and functions including hour, minute, second and date, the crown at 10:00 position can adjust to rotate the bezel, and the one at 3:00 position can adjust its time and date. Hands and markers are super luminous, time can be read in dark easily, I have tested this by myself. The strap is made of composite rubber that has be proceed with sulfidizing, it won’t be corroded by sea water, chlorine, cleanser or perfume. What’s more, the strap shape won’t change or lose the elasticity as time goes by. The movement for this amazing high-tech watch is a replica Swiss EAT 2836 movement that is from Seagull, and this is the most mature and stable replica Swiss movement in the market. This movement will surely support this replica piece to work as good and stable as per original. In one word, this is the best replica Audemars Piguet Diver Carbon watch that I have ever seem, if you are looking for a high quality replica but light watch, this is an amazing choice.

Best Audemars Piguet Carbon Watch

Audemars Piguet 15706 Carbon Replica on Wrist

Noob Replica Rolex Submariner 116613LN Two Tone Wrapped Gold Watch Review

Replica Rolex Submariner 116613LN

Replica Rolex Submariner 116613LN Two Tone

Replica Rolex Submariner 116613LN Ceramic Bezel

The first Rolex Submariner was released in 1954, until nowadays, it has been showed in several of the James Bond 007 films. And, it is also so popular among the famous sport players, tennis player had wore a Rolex watch during he attended Australian Open Tennis Championships, and that Rolex model became a hot item soon all over the world. Rolex released an updated version of 16613LN on Basel of 2009. It seems not much changes comparing to the previous edition but there are more changes in the details. Today I would like to introduce a top-grade replica Rolex Submariner. There are two editions of 116613LN from Noob factory, 18K wrap gold and gold-plating editions. Of course, wrap gold Rolex is much better than gold-plating one, because the percentage of gold is four times more than gold-plating edition, the color would never change, but price will be much higher too.

Replica Rolex Submariner 116613LN Crown

Replica Rolex Submariner 116613LN Case

One of the upgrade of the new Submariner 116613LN is the bezel, adopting the “Cerachrom” bezel which is made of ceramic. Compare the old edition, the new material is harder and bezel color is not easy to be scratched. Besides, the golden markers on the black bezel are also gold-cladding, the gold color matching black perfectly. Another outstanding point of Rolex Submariner watch is the easy-to-read dial, the new version has bigger markers and hands. The edge of markers and hands are gold-cladding, matching the bezel well. What’s more, they are super luminous, reading the time in a dark environment is not a problem. This model’s function is including hour, minute, second and date. It adopts a Swiss made 2836 movement will ensure these functions working well. There are characters in white on the black dial to indicate the model and other information, this is just as per original. New editions keeps its original 40mm size, and this size has wide costume group. The case material is solid 316L stainless steel, being great with the gold color. Submariner 116613LN has longer lugs and bigger crown bridge, so this feels it has a bigger case. The bracelet is also made of solid 316L stainless steel and gold-cladding, matching the case perfectly. It’s front cover is made of sapphire crystal and there is water-drop enlarged at 3:00 position for the date indicator. The waterproof is 100 meter that allow for swimming.

Replica Rolex Submariner 116613LN Black Dial

Replica Rolex Submariner 116613LN Caseback

This replica Rolex Submariner has two edition, a normal edition and a latest V6S edition. Here is the difference between these two: there is a laser Anti-counterfeiting Rolex logo on the front case at 6:00 position, this is exactly as original edition. This logo has to use magnifier or put it at a 45 degree under the light to see it. But, the ordinary edition has the painted crown logo that can be seem directly. There comes very the original Rolex package, very fancy and high-class.

Replica Rolex Submariner 116613LN Two Tone Bracelet

Replica Rolex Submariner 116613LN Clasp

Replica Rolex Submariner 116613LN Dial Lume

Noob V7 Replica Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Black Ceramic Bezel

Replica Rolex GMT Master II Black Watch

Replica Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Black Bezel

Replica Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN

When the factory told me that this watch is the best replica Rolex GMT-Master II watch so far in the market, I was wondering how it would be. I hold this new arrival in my hand and look into it carefully, then I agree with what I was told. No matter the look or the material, it is exactly the same as the original. I think you would like me to show you more details as below.

Replica Rolex GMT Master II Black Dial

It seems that Rolex designed the GMT-Master II for specific group, but more and more people who travel a lot or love traveling would prefer to wear this watch. The reason is the elegant look and its useful functions. The 40mm case is made of 314L stainless steel and looks good not only during travelling all over the world but also good for any business occasions. On the black dial, there are dots and stick markers, and except for the hour, minute and second function, there is also date display and GMT. The date indicator is at 3:00, and we can see it adopts Rolex’s traditional water-drop design to enlarge it. On the black bezel we can see there are numbers and markers, this is the most outstanding specification of this GMT-Master II watch, from hands on the dial we can tell the local time, and from the bezel and the 24-hour hand we can tell the time zone when you travel. And this is can be adjusted by the crown, so the traveler can always know the time of the departure and arrival places at the same time. The bezel is made of ceramic material, matching the sapphire cover perfectly. The strap is very Rolex style type, matching a folding clasp.

Replica Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Crown

Replica Rolex GMT Master II Steel Case

The reason they said this is the best edition of replica Rolex GMT-Master II is that it is driven by a 1:1 super clone 3186 automatic movement, which can support it to work as well as the original. And, this watch looks younger than other gold and stainless steel models, looking good on the young as well.


Movement: Clone 3186 Automatic

Case: 40mm*13mm, 316L stainless steel

Bezel: Real Black Ceramic

Crystal: Sapphire, Anti-scratch

Dial: Black

Bracelet: Solid 316L Stainless Steel

Water Resistant: 100m

Replica Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Caseback

Replica Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Bracelet

Replica Rolex GMT Master II Clasp Polished

Replica Rolex Datejust II 41mm 116333 Green Rome Markers

Rolex Datejust II Green Rome Replica

Rolex is the mostly replicated brand in our watch industry, so there are a lot of watch factories here manufacturing Rolex replicas in different quality level. If you want to get the best one, you must know which factory is good at making replica Rolex. According to my knowledge, Noob factory makes good quality Rolex Submariner, while Changrong is producing nice gold Rolexs, which means that the gold coating on Rolex made by Changrong factory lasts longer and does not easily fade. Although Submariner is my most favorite Rolex whether as a formal dress watch or as a diver’s timer, sometimes a fresh Datejust will fit your business suits better, just like this one, Datejust II 116333, actually a lot of people asked me the price of this Rolex, I can not tell you its exact price because several factories make it and they have different price level. Like this one I will give a review, is sold at $610 usd, but there are cheaper ones sold at around $360 usd. So, sometimes if you want a better replica, you are also expected to be charged a large amount of money, not all replicas are cheap.

Rolex Datejust II 116333 Replica

Rolex Datejust II 116333 Grey Dial

The biggest advantage of Rolex Datejust 116333 replica lies in its bezel, crown and bracelet, which are wrapped 18K gold, and it is much thicker than the gold coating on common Rolex, never fade even after being worn for 2 or 3 years. The case is brushed except four polished lugs, fluted bezel, the golden tone is just echoing with the golden middle links on bracelet. The dial is also very beautiful, these contrasting color difference forms a clearly readable dial, large grey dial is set in a 41mm case, these hour markers are big Rome numbers in green color, which forms a high contrast with the gray background. Central hands are also in gold color, both hour and minute hands have white lume material applied. White minute scales are on the outer dial, there you can clearly see Rolex Rehaut that could be only found on some 1:1 high end replica Rolex.

Rolex Datejust 2 116333 Crown

Rolex Datejust 2 116333 Fluted Bezel

The green Rome hour markers on the dial are a bright spot of the replica, it is also one of the main reasons why there are a lot of people loving this Datejust. Besides, the replica Datejust is equipped with a Sea-Gull Clone 2836 movement, it is considered to be the most stable replica movement in watch industry. If you pursue perfection, the watch could also be equipped with a real ETA movement.

Rolex Datejust 2 116333 Two Tone Case

Rolex 116333 Two Tone Buckle

Rolex 116333 Back with Green Sticker

Rolex 116333 Clasp

Noob Factory V7 Replica Rolex GMT Master II 116710 BLNR Ceramic Watch with Clone 3186

Rolex GMT Master 116710 BLNR Replica

116710 BLNR is the best-selling GMT Master II among replica watch field because of its eye-catching black and blue bezel. Factories like Noob in our market have already been devoted into improving every detail to manufacture the best quality replica Rolex. 116710 BLNR is the product of Noob, and it is the seventh time for the factory to make some important changes on this replica watch, although the previous versions have been perfect enough. Now the mostly asked question about the difference between V7 and V6s by my blog readers, here I must clarify the thing clear, it lies in the clasp engraving, which is polished on V7 and satin-finished on V6s.

Rolex GMT Master II Black Blue Replica

One of my clients who live in France bought two 116710 BLNR from me, the only feedback he left for us is it is a flawless replica. If you have been focusing on development of replica watch industry for years, you will know how much progress those factories have made in recent years, there are no big factories that were manufacturing such high quality replica watches before, only some small factories made some cheap replica Rolex in the past, the best were those medium quality ones. Rolex also added a lot of anti-fake features in their recent models, however, this exactly has made the factory overcome difficulties to research genuine models to produce more better 1:1 replica watches, now, every replica Rolex watch coming from big factories has all necessary features which you could find on a genuine Rolex. Please read the following specifications of this replica Rolex GMT Master II.

Rolex GMT Master II Black Blue Bezel Replica

Movement: Clone Rolex 3186, functional GMT
Case: 40mm*13mm, 316L Stainless Steel
Bezel: Blue/Black Ceramic
Dial: Black with Superlume Hour Markers
Crystal: Sapphire with Etched Crown at 6 o’clock
Clasp: Rolesor Type

Rolex GMT Master II 116710 BLNR Black Dial

In next year 2017, I think the factory will focus on releasing more new watches rather than continuously improving the old models, because I think such 116710 BLNR is already perfect, there are no places need to be improved, the last defect on the clasp has been corrected. If you are in pursuit of perfection, the only way to make the replica work more accurate is to install a genuine ETA movement for it, the factory offer clients such option if you can pay extra $80 usd for a genuine movement.

Rolex GMT Master II 116710 BLNR Crown

Rolex GMT Master II 116710 BLNR Case

The two big selling points of the replica lie in its bezel and function. First, the bezel uses real ceramic material, the blue and black color on bezel are real color of the ceramic, not painted, besides, the central blue hand with a big triangle is working in the same way like genuine, you can adjust GMT hand position through the crown. If you can replace with a genuine ETA movement and take good care of the replica in daily life, I mean, do not let it under water too often, it will serve you for 3-5 years. I am not cheating you, I have been in this area for years, I know how to modified these replicas to make them become stronger and realiable.

Rolex GMT Master II 116710 BLNR Caseback

Rolex GMT Master II 116710 BLNR Buckle

Rolex GMT Master II 116710 BLNR Clasp

Noob V7 Replica Rolex Explorer 216570 Watch with Clone 3187 Movement

Rolex Explorer II 216570 Replica

Replicating Rolex is the best job Noob factory has done, they have published a lot of good quality replica Rolex watches, including Submariner, GMT Master and Explorer, and they have always improved the details to continuously release the better versions of these watches. Among all Rolex watches, the best-selling ones are Submariner and GMT Master II, although Explorer II is not as hot as them, Noob factory has always been insisting on releasing the improved version of replica Explorer II. This time, the factory published an ultimate version of Explorer II, it is improved on the basis of V6s, the quality is better and lots of details have been improved, even a professional could not find any flaws on it. Modern Explorer II does not have too much changes, like this 216570, it inherits the original features of previous Explorer II models, so that you can easily recognize it even in a lot of Rolex watches.

Rolex Explorer II 216570 White Dial

This V7 replica Rolex Explorer II 216570 has a lot of new features, but the most obvious one is that the watch is equipped with a clone Rolex 3187 movement. It is the first time for a factory to use a 3187 movement on Explorer II replica watch, before, you can only saw clone ETA series movement on Explorer II, now Noob factory installed such a high-grade clone 3187 movement into this replica, to make it harder to be identified as a replica. Even you open the case back, there are no wrong places you could find because the clone movement is the same as Rolex 3187. The clone 3187 has working GMT function, hand stack that you guys worried about before was also corrected this time.

Rolex Explorer II 216570 Steel Replica

The replica Rolex Explorer II features a white dial, there is also a black dial version. White and black match really well, like this 216570 replica, on white dial, the hour markers and hands all have black edge, which has a high contrast with the white dial background. The orange GMT hand echoes with the orange printing “EXPLORER II”, looks very obvious and eye-catching. Hour markers and hands are applied super lume material, so the dial will have a strong lume effect in the dark, which is very convenient for you to read the time.

Rolex Explorer II 216570 Orange Hand

For me, who pursue perfection, I focus its texture such as weight more than the details. When I first hold the replica on hand, I feel a little heavy, it gives me a big surprise because a lot of replica watches have a very light weight, but this one is heavy, this absolutely makes me believe that the replica is made of high-level solid steel material, actually it is, the 316L stainless steel is currently the best watch material. With screw-down crown and case back is perfectly sealed, the replica watch is tested to be 50m waterproof by Noob factory workers.

Rolex Explorer II 216570 Crown

Rolex Explorer II 216570 Case

Rolex Explorer II 216570 Caseback

Rolex Explorer II 216570 Buckle

Rolex Explorer II 216570 Clasp

Top Ten Worth-Buying Replica Watches

Rolex D-Blue on Wrist

D-Blue and Black Submariner all belong to top replicas. There are two movement options, Hangzhou 6300 and Shanghai 3135. The size is 44mm and 40mm. In my opinion, if you want a comfortable winding experience, choose 3135 movement, if you have a limited budget, then choose the cheaper 6300.

GP Portuguese Replica

IWC371446, case diameter is 41mm. It uses the most stable Dandong chronograph movement. This Portuguese replica is made by GP, ZF or 3A factory. The version from GP factory is the best.

PAM 111 from Noob

PAM 111, the must-have Panerai watch, because it is in high quality and with a cheap price. The replica is equipped with a Sea-Gull ST3600 manual winding movement, which is very stable.

Best V6 Ballon Bleu

Ballon Blue, the classic of V6 factory, and also the best in the market. V6 factory makes three versions for Ballon Blue, one is with Sea-Gull 2824, one is with ETA 2892, the last uses Sea-Gull 2892. The one with genuine ETA 2892 movement is the best Ballon Bleu, and absolutely sold at a high price. Rhodium plated dial has a strong three-dimensional feeling.

H Factory Steelfish

Steelfish from H factory is very cost-efficient, it has a considerable finishing and weight. The dial has black and blue options.

AP 15703 by JF

AP 15703 Movement Test

AP 15703 is an important milestone in replica watch world. I recommend the 15703 replica made by JF. If you want a better price, choose V7 with 2824 movement, considering a more stable movement, you can choose V8 with Miyota 9015.

Black Submariner 40mm

Now black Sub comes. This replica has already been manufactured well. About movement, I prefer 3135, the winding direction is correct and winding feel is very good. Highly recommended.

Santos 6K

Santos 6K with ETA 2892

Santos, the one above is equipped with a genuine ETA 2892 movement. However, I recommend the replica Santos with a Sea-gull 2892 movement, because it has a good case, dial, the movement is also quality, but the price is much cheaper.

IWC Portofino Black Leather Band

Portofino, this watch has the best version from MK factory. Perfect replica level, 2892 movement.

Jaeger LeCoultre Black Leather Strap

The last one is a Jaeger-LeCoultre. It is the latest good replica in the market. The crystal has a green AR Coating, very unique. Movement uses Tianjin ST17 automatic.