The development of Clean factory

I already talked a lot about Clean in my previous reviews of replica watches made by this factory, to know Clean factory better, please read this article.

Before the birth of Clean, the best Submariner replicas were made by Noob and AR, these two factories now have been closed. At that time, the Submariner made by Noob and AR has two big flaws, first, the tone of the bezel markers will fade, second, the green color is not correct. Someone who sold replica watches in the market saw a business opportunity that will earn a lot of money by making a better ceramic bezel for the Submariner. In 2019, he made one green ceramic bezel and sold it under name of “Clean”, immediately the green ceramic bezel became hot in the market, especially among the watch fans who did custom-made jobs, it is the first green ceramic bezel that has the closest green color to gen and has no-fade bezel markers. He earned some money by selling these bezels. At that time, Noob have been selling 4130 Daytona for some time, but their bezel on the Daytona is not very good, so a few months later, Clean made a ceramic bezel for the white Panda Daytona 116500LN. And at the same time, Clean published their first generation of Submariner and sold under name of “ZZF”. At that time, Clean could not compete with Noob and AR in the field of Submariner, later, Noob and AR also developed the ceramic bezel which they claimed won’t fade.

In the end of 2020, Clean announced the release of the GMT-Master replica watches with clone 3186 movement, but they did not sell them until the summer of 2021. In the whole year of 2019, it is the competition of Submariner between Noob, AR and ZZ, later, VS factory also published the Submariner with the latest Dandong 3135 movement, this movement is more stable and has fewer issues than the movement equipped in ZZF Submariner, even the Submariner from VS did not have the same good finish as the Sub from ZZF, especially on the hulk Submariner, the green color on the ceramic bezel is not as good as that on ZZF 116610LV, but with better movement and better quality control as well as higher reputation, VS still beat Clean and became the second big supplier of super clone Rolex Submariner, Noob occupied the biggest market share. Clean’s ZZF Submariner still not hot.

In the development process, Clean updated all their Submariner with the second generation of Shanghai 3135 movement, from that time, in the sales of Submariner, they decided not to use name “ZZF” any more, but use name “Clean” directly. The intense competition between Clean and VS started. During their competition, there was an interesting thing happend, VS found the factory that always supplied ceramic bezel for Clean. Later, VS developed Dandong 3235 movement and firstly equipped in the 42mm YachtMaster, and then equipped it in their 41mm new Submariner and Datejust. After seeing the fast development of VS, Clean took an action and developed a Shanghai 3235 movement, whose decoration is not as beautiful as Dandong 3235 movement of VS, the power reserve of Shanghai 3235 movement is about 45 hours, which is shorter than 72 hours on Dandong 3235 movement. At this time, Noob and AR could not follow the steps of VS and Clean, although they still have a large amount of customers.

In March or April of 2020, I can not remember exactly in which month, Noob and AR were forced to be closed because of the raid, and then VS was also closed. Now only Clean survived. Before this raid, Clean was absolutely not as famous as Noob, AR and VS, but the three actions Clean made next made them become the boss in the market. First, they accepted all orders of Dandong 4130 movement that were only supplied to Noob before, Clean started to sell the Daytona with Dandong 4130 movement in the end of 2021, their Daytona is much better than the one made by Noob before. Second, Clean decided to use the Dandong 3135 movement in their Submariner. From that time, Clean completely beat VS in 40mm Submariner. Third, about in 2022, Clean developed Dandong 3285 movement and continued to improve their GMT-Master replicas. Clean now is the boss in super clone Rolex, and VS can compete with Clean just because they still own the Dandong 3235 movement. Clean made a very quick success, besides the super quality, the luck also played an important role, I explained the “luck” factor in Clean’s development process in another post at https://www.susanreviews.com/2023/09/29/why-did-clean-factory-get-a-success-so-quickly/.

About 3K factory

Like Clean, 3K also does not have a long history in this industry, it has another two names, K3 and BT. Today, I will give a brief introduction of 3K factory.

In 2019, someone in Zhanxi market bought one Cartier Ballon Bleu replica from V6 factory, he was impressed by the quality and decided to make Ballon Bleu Cartier replica watches by himself, finally, the products came out and the quality is very good, the Ballon Bleu made by him has a very close quality to V6, he was smart, put the V6 sticker on each of his watches and then sell under the name of V6, but at a cheaper price, the result is he earned some money.

The super clone 4130 movement that was developed by Noob and a movement factory in Dandong was very popular at that time. He found this movement factory in Dandong and expressed his thought of wanting to develop a clone PP 324 movement. After half one year of researching, the first generation of clone PP 324 movement came out, which was then equipped in Nautilus 5711 and Aquanaut by WY-3K. But these Patek Philippe replicas equipped with the first generation of PP 324 has a few big issues like jumping seconds, date stuck, sudden stop and noisy auto rotor. Because of these serious problems, a lot of Patek watches were overstocked in their warehouse.

In the end of 2020, I do not remember exact time, they decided to re-study the PP 324 and wanted to solve these issues, then finally the second generation of clone PP 324 came out, which is also the final clone 324 movement you see in current 3K Nautilus 5711 and Aquanaut. The new clone 324 solved all movement issues mentioned above and it is more stable than the movement used in PPF Nautilus. Because of this movement, the case of Nautilus 5711 replica from 3K can be reduced to only 8.3mm, which is closest to gen thickness among all replicas. Afterwards, 3K factory continued to update the case shape of the Nautilus 5711, with the promotion of watch fans who did custom-made works on replica watches, the 3K Nautilus became popular quickly, and now more people are like to buy Nautilus 5711 replica from 3K, other than from PPF, except the blue/gray dial version.

Along with the closure of V6, 3K gained a large portion of the market that belonged to V6 before, then they started to compete with AF in the field of Ballon Bleu. And a branch of 3K, which was called K3, specialized in making ladies Cartier Ballon Bleu.

BT, which is another branch of 3K, makes good quality replicas of Rolex Daytona. Clean is not the only one factory that owns super clone 4130 movement developed by a movement factory in Dandong, BT and New Noob also has it. After the release of Daytona 116500LN by Clean, BT also published the replica Rolex Daytona 116500 white and black models, later Clean made several improvements on the Daytona bezel and dial, but BT also did, so I think the 116500LN Daytona from BT is also very good. Perhaps they wanted to beat Clean so urgently, so next BT published a series of Daytona models earlier than Clean, but the finish is not as good as the first two Daytona 116500LN watches they made before. Next Clean also published a lot of Daytona watches including the yellow gold one and white gold one with rubber band, which have a better quality than BT, so in the competition of Daytona between Clean and BT, BT is gradually at a disadvantage. However, their Daytona 116500LN, full stainless steel Daytona and ice blue Daytona are still worth buying.

This is the story about 3K factory.

V9 Factory Replica Vacheron Constantin Historiques 222 Yellow Gold Watch

This is the latest replica watch from V9 factory, it is a Vacheron Constantin watch from Historiques collection, reference is 222. The watch has a full yellow gold tone and has some retro flavor, I like it very much.

There are not too many super clone Vacheron Constantin watches in our market, I only recommend three models, Overseas 4500V made by ZF, Overseas Ultra-thin 2000V made by XF and 6000V tourbillon made by BBR, they have a very good quality and also the VC replica watches people mostly bought.

There are no such type of replica Vacheron Constantin watches like this Historiques 222 that has a full yellow gold tone, I was deeply attracted by its design when I got this watch yesterday night, it has a sporty shape but with some retro design features. About factory V9, there is little information about it online, I remember they makd some IWC replicas with complication functions before. This Vacheron Constantin 222 replica has a 37mm case diameter, the case is measured to be about 8.5mm in thickness. Like many replicas made by V9 in the past, this Vacheron Constantin replica also has a quality that beyond middle level but not reach the highest quality, I do not think it is a super clone.

The price of this Vacheron Constantin replica is a little high sold by V9, now only V9 makes this replica and people who like VC watches that look a bit vintage will probably consider it, the watch has an iconic Maltese cross at the 5 o’clock position on the yellow gold case, crafted from polished stainless steel. The polishing on the Maltese cross does not look too obvious, I think it should look more glossy. The brushed round bezel has small semicircular grooves on the edge, the groove looks a little smaller than the one on the genuine watch. The bracelet is perfectly integrated with the case into one piece. The yellow gold tone on the dial is perfectly in line with the color on the case and bracelet.

This replica VC Historiques watch is worth purchasing because V9 adopts a Miyota 9015 movement, where you can see it through the crystal back. V9 added the decorated plates on basis of the original Miyota 9015 movement, the auto rotor is also decorated to look closer to the calibre on genuine Vacheron Constantin watch. I think you already know this movement has been widely used in replica watches because of its good stability and accuracy.

Replica Vacheron Constantin Historiques 222
Replica Vacheron Constantin 222
Replica Vacheron Constantin Historiques 222 Yellow Gold
Vacheron Constantin Historiques Yellow Gold Replica
Vacheron Constantin Historiques 222 Crown
Vacheron Constantin Historiques 222 Movement
Vacheron Constantin Historiques 222 Crystal Back
Vacheron Constantin Historiques 222 Bracelet
Vacheron Constantin Historiques 222 Clasp

Secrets about APS factory

In one of my articles published in the end of last year, I talked about the friendship between ZF and APS, today, more interesting stores about APS factory will be shared.

First, have you heard of BF? I thought it was a new factory when their AP ROO Diver 15710 and 15720 firstly appeared in the market in 2021, but BF has been in the market for more than 5 years, even has a much longer history than APS, there is a relationship between APS and BF. Their bosses are cousins. BF introduced APS into this industry.

The relationship between ZF and APS is very solid, we talked about this in the article https://www.susanreviews.com/2023/12/23/the-bromance-between-aps-and-zf/. In the early time when APS just entered this market, almost all replica watches were using Asia clone ETA 2824 and 2836 movements, they wanted to use better movements to create better replica watches, so they focused on researching and developing movements at the beginning, absolutely the new movement development process is mainly completed by Chinese traditional movement factories. Take the Portuguese 7 Days Power Reserve as an example, the earlier model with old movement looks werid, check the picture below.

Old Portuguese
The Portuguese with old movement

Then APS cooperated with a movement factory in Dandong and developed a new movement, after being installed, the Portuguese 7 Days Power Reserve below with new movement looks very nice. At that time, APS only sold this Portuguese 52010 movement to ZF. But one or two years later, APS realized that they could not earn enough money by only developing and selling movements to other factories, then they started to sell the Portuguese 7 Days Power Reserve replica watches by themselves, with the latest 52010 movement they owned, but under another name “AZ”, someone also call it AZF, so, APS and AZ are actually the same team.

New Portuguese
The Portguese with new movement from APS

The clone IW52010 is a great success for APS, they wanted to develop another great movement now, especially after seeing the release of Dandong 4130 movement by Noob, APS took the action immediately. They also cooperated with Dandong and developed two movements in 2020, one is JL925 for the Jaeger LeCoultre Master Moonphase, the other is JL938 for the Jaeger LeCoultre Reserve De Marche. The first batch of clone JL925 movement was sold to YL factory, later APS also equipped JL925 in their replicas of JL Master Ultra Thin Moonphase and sold under name of “AZ”. Later this clone JL925 movement was also supplied to ZF and GF two factories.

Next, it is the 3120 movement used in 15400. We know 3120 was developed by JF before, but JF was closed, later the 3120 was improved by a movement factory in Shanghai. Then APS seized the opportunity and accepted all 3120 movements from Shanghai. Now we can see the 3120 in Royal Oak 15400 made by APS is very stable. Later APS offered a small amount of 3120 movement to ZF. And then APS and this movement factory in Shanghai developed the 4302 movement together, we can see 4302 is now used in Royal Oak 15500 made by ZF and APS. The last movement from APS I want to mention here is the 5134 used in Royal Oak Perpetual Calendar 26574, this movement is also very stable, for AP 26574 replicas, I still recommend the ones made by APS, which are more stable than those ones just published by BBR a few weeks ago.

AP 26574 Black

Which factory makes the best gold Daytona 116518 replica?

Gold Daytona Comparison BT vs Clean
BT Daytona Dial
Clean Daytona Dial

About the gold Daytona 116518, there are several factories that are making its super clone, they are Clean, BT, Gold, APS, QF, New Noob, among these factories, maybe you are more familiar with Clean and BT, which are more mentioned when people talking about super clone Daytona. Gold and APS also make good quality Daytona replicas with increased weight, but they are using Shanghai 4130 movement, which is not as good as the Dandong 4130 equipped in Daytona made by Clean and BT. About QF, I heard very little about this factory, and about New Noob, I have introduced it in one of my articles before. Currently I only suggest you buy Daytona from Clean and BT. Many Franken watches are also customized on basis of the Daytona from them.

The gold Daytona 116518 is a very popular replica, both Clean and BT are make this model and form a direct competition, which factory makes the best one? I though BT makes this watch better before, but after watching a lot of video reviews on this replica watch, I changed my mind, Clean version is better, please buy with Clean.

Look at the pictures in the beginning of this article, do you know which one is from Clean?

First, I want to say the replica made by both Clean and BT has flaws if you compare them with genuine watch. The case has color difference, genuine watch uses real 18K yellow gold, the replica only has a layer of gold plating on the case, the gold tone on the replica looks brighter and more yellowish. The weight difference also exists, the replica is about 35 grams lighter than the genuine watch. The dial printings on genuine watch are better, especially the red “DAYTONA”, which has a thicker font on the genuine watch. I have seen the movement comparison between them and genuine, the decoration on genuine Rolex 4130 movement is better, and genuine Rolex 4130 movement has one feature that could not be found on Dandong 4130.

BT makes 116518 earlier than Clean, now the latest version comes to V2, on the V1, the gold on the case and dial is too yellow, BT has made the changes on the V2 edition, now the gold tone is very close to that on Clean. However, the dial color is still a little yellow. The dial color on Clean is closer to genuine, I think this is the biggest difference between BT and Clean. Which one will you choose if I put them together. Many videos reviews said the one made by Clean is the ultimate version, so I also recommend Clean even it has a higher price.

Except the dial color, I can not find other differences, can you? Which one is Clean and which one is from BT? Please comment below and share your opinions about the two replicas.

原单 Factory Tudor Pelagos 39mm with SW200 Movement

Before introducing this watch, I would like to tell you that those watch factories will close their stores and go to spend our traditional Chinese New Year holiday soon. And most of them have stopped accepting returned watches for repairing. If you want to order watches before our holiday, now it is the time. Because it needs several weeks to order some specific watches from the factories, for example, ordering GMT-Master super clone from Clean, so I suggest you take the action now.

What is 原单? I have expained it in one of my previous posts at https://www.susanreviews.com/2023/09/08/what-is-%e5%8e%9f%e5%8d%95/. Simply speaking, 原单 watch is not genuine watch, it is also a replica watch, but uses a genuine Swiss movement inside.

About the best replicas of Tudor Pelagos, they were made by XF before, but this black Pelagos, which has a 39mm case, not not made by ZF or XF, I only found it in 原单 category. The entire case is brushed, the black dial and black ceramic bezel have sunburst finish, it is the first time for me to see a sunburst finish on a ceramic bezel, in the past, I only saw smooth gloss finish on a ceramic bezel. The 39mm case diameter is a more suitable size for most people.

原单 watch has two big features, first, the finish on the case and bracelet is not as good as that on super clones made by big factories such as VS, ZF and Clean, but their finish is much better than the middle quality replicas. Second, the movement is from the Switzerland, it uses a real Swiss movement. Like this black Tudor Pelagos, it is equipped with a SW200 automatic movement, which is also the reason why it has a higher price than other replica watches. By the way, each 原单 watch comes with an original box.

Sometimes I do not suggest you buy 原单 watches because they are too expensive, and for some details on the dial, they are not made as good as that on super clones. If you have enough budget, I would rather advise you to buy a Fraken watch.

Replica Tudor Pelagos 39mm
Replica Tudor Pelagos 39mm Black
Tudor Pelagos 39mm Black Ceramic
Tudor Pelagos Case
Tudor Pelagos Crown
Tudor Pelagos Case Back
Tudor Black Pelagos Replica
Tudor Pelagos SW200 Movement
Tudor Pelagos Rubber Band

Clean V3 Pepsi GMT-Master

It has been less than a month since the release of V2 edition of Pepsi GMT-Master, now Clean just published the V3 edition of this watch in last week. I took some pictures of the V3 and some comparison photos between V2 and V3. Clean facotory also raises the price on the latest V3 edition.

Here come the pictures of the V3, the replica watch looks very nice, Clean has made several improvements on this replica, the biggest change lies in the movement, which is from 3186 to Dandong 3285. Then the color of the ceramic bezel was improved twice in recent two months. Do you like the latest blue and red color on the V3? The red color looks slightly brighter than that on the V2. I did not see genuine watch and do not know which color is more correct. By the way, now Clean only offers the latest V3 edition for this Pepsi GMT-Master.

The pictures of the V3 Edition Pepsi.

Clean Replica Rolex GMT-Master II Pepsi Jubilee

The comparison photos between them, the left watch is V3 edition, the right one is V2 edition.

V2 vs V3 Pepsi

When I light the bezel with a laser pointer, the red on the V3 edition looks more transparent. In the following three pictures, the right one is V3.

In the video, the right one is V3.

New Datejust from Clean

Now in super clones field of Rolex, the two giants are Clean and VS, the watches coming from Clean almost cover each series of Rolex, while VS also makes replicas of a lot of Rolex watches, but not including the Daytona. I hope VS factory can make Daytona in 2024, because I want to see what improvements can still be made on the Daytona.

The absolute advantage of Clean is its Daytona, BT still can not compete with them. The absolute advantage of VS lies in its Dandong 3235 movement, this is the key factor why VS still can compete with Clean in the Rolex replica field. Because of the Dandong 3235, many people have a buying misunderstanding, which is the watch is the best as long as it uses a Dandong 3235 movement, the Datejust is an example, but Clean also makes super clones of Datejust, I think both have the same quality level. Now the only problem is that ordering a Datejust from both factories will take a long time. Clean and VS have published a lot Datejust replica watches, but both factories only keep several popular models in stock. The following pictures show some new Datejust watches that were just published by Clean, but if you want to order anyone of them, I am afraid you need to wait for several weeks.

These new models are in two tone style, there are yellow gold and rose gold, the bracelet also has Oyster and Jubilee options, among them, I like the two with mother-of-pearl diamond dial and the one with light pink dial. They are perfect new year gifts for women who love big watches.

There are indeed differences you can see on the Datejust watches between VS and Clean, but I can not tell you which factory is the best because I have not seen genuine watches. However, for a specific model like black, blue or silver one, perhaps one factory does better in some details than the other factory, you need to ask advice from your dealer, but VS Datejust has a longer power reserve, which is about 60 hours, while on Clean Datejust, the power reserve is only about 40 hours.

Clean New Datejust
Clean Datejust Pink
Clean Datejust MOP

The Bromance Between APS and ZF

Just in this week, ZF released the replicas of Royal Oak 15450, which have a 37mm case diameter and are measured to be 9.8mm in thickness. They are equipped with the super clone 3120 movement developed by APS factory. There are three colors available, gray, white and blue, please check the pictures of them in the end of this article. Actually I have introduced the replica AP Royal Oak 15450 watches on my blog, they were firstly published by APS factory just two weeks ago, now ZF followed the step of APS and published the same watches. If you ask me which factory makes the best, I would say it is a correct choice no matter which factory you buy from. ZF had cooperation with APS before, but from now on, I am more convinced of their bromance.

Like ZF, APS also has been in this industry for many years, but it is still younger than ZF. When APS just entered this industry, ZF has been famous for some time because of some Panerai replica watches they made, for example, the PAM 127, this is a very hot replica Panerai watch in the past, ZF made it really good and competed with Noob. In 2016, APS seized an opportunity and cooperated with YL factory, both developed an important movement together, which is the clone 51011 that was later used in the replica IWC Portuguese 7 Days Power Reserve watches made by ZF. So, we know that the famous watch Portuguese 7 Days Power Reserve from ZF is actually using the movement given by APS factory. Even YL also published the replicas of Portuguese 7 Days Power Reserve, but they still could not compete with ZF at that time, some people said that ZF has better finish on the case and dial on this replica watch.

Why did APS give movement 51011 to ZF? I guess they need the protection of ZF, because APS just entered this industry and ZF has a strong background. Do you still remember the raid ? I do not know exactly whether it happened two or three years ago, many big factories were closed, including Noob and ARF, but ZF and APS survived.

Next, it is about the super clone AP 3120 movement, which is also developed by APS factory. In the past, ZF used a Miyota 9015 movement in the Royal Oak 15400, on the basis of Miyota 9015, ZF added extra plates and made decorations to let final movement look closer to genuine AP 3120. Several years later, APS spent money and developed a super clone AP 3120 movement, as far as I know, this movement was manufactured by Shanghai xx xx. Because of this movement, the case thickness of replica Royal Oak 15400 and 15500 is much thinner and closer to that of genuines. By the way, APS also gave this movement to ZF, that’s also a big reason why 15400 and 15500 from ZF are being sold so well. Seeing from this thing, the friendship between ZF and APS is really solid. APS factory has also published the replicas of 15400 and 15500, they continuously improve them, but their watches are still not sold as well as ZF.

APS acted faster than ZF but they are always thinking of the latter.

Replica Audemars Piguet 15450 White
Replica Audemars Piguet 15450 Gray
Replica Audemars Piguet 15450 Blue
Replica Audemars Piguet 15450 Crown
Replica Audemars Piguet 15450 Movement

Z Factory Replica Rolex Daytona 126500 with Shanghai 4130 Movement

Just several weeks ago, Z factory announced the release of the Daytona replica watches, are you familiar with them? The black one and white one, look like Daytona 116500, but the ones Z factory published this time are the replicas of the latest Daytona 126500 that were made by Rolex in 2023. The 126500 Daytona has some changes upon the previous 116500, but the replicas from Z factory are not good, I do not recommend.

Its quality is ok, but there are too many differences when you compare it with the genuine watch, and the differences are too obvious, I think it has a solid quality, 904L stainless steel, sapphire crystal and Shanghai 4130 movement, all these elements make it a high quality replica, but not a super clone in my opinion, no people will buy the 126500 from Z factory, especially at this moment when all people are seeking for perfection.

I just did some searches on the pictures of genuine Daytona 126500 and found the replica is greatly different from the genuine, first, its case shape is not correct on the replica, especially on the lugs, second, the most obvious flaw you can immediately noticed is its three subdials, which should be thinner and smaller, but Z factory uses the subdials that are in the same size as the 116500, that’s a big mistake, even the hour markers are thinner, but the subdial on the replica 126500 is a very obvious flaw. I do not think people will buy this watch.

Why did Z factory unveil this new Daytona 126500 so urgently? Because they want to make more money. We know Z factory makes some good quality replicas, such as IWC Portuguese, Audemars Piguet Royal Oak 15400 and 15500, Patek Philippe Nautilus and Aquanaut, etc., they make a lot of models, but today only several watches can earn money for Z factory, they are AP 15400, 15500 and Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711, while among these watches, Z factory is facing the direct competition from APS and 3K factory, so I think they earn much less money than before. So, Z factory need to open another project, actually they have such a plan several years ago, from the release of the replica Rolex Submariner, we can tell that Z factory wanted to enter into the Rolex field, then Z factory published the Daytona replicas, we can see they are very eager to make a success in Rolex field, but they failed. Nobody wants to buy Submariner and Daytona from Z factory in the past, and the latest 126500 replicas published by them this time are also bad clones.

Absolutely there will be super clones of 126500 Daytona in future, I think Clean or BT will release half a year later.

The pictures of the ZF 126500.

Replica Rolex Daytona 126500
Replica Rolex Daytona 126500 Panda
Replica Rolex Daytona 126500 White
ZF Replica Rolex Daytona 126500
Rolex Daytona 126500 Case
Rolex Daytona 126500 Crown
Rolex Daytona 126500 Case Back
Rolex Daytona 126500 Clasp

The pictures comparison between Clean Daytona 116500 and ZF Daytona 126500.

Clean Daytona 116500 vs ZF Daytona 126500