Monthly Archives: September 2025

Clean

This is the last time for me to discuss Clean Factory on my blog, like I mentioned on my previous article, I said Clean will not be back, yes, this is true. So, do not trust anyone in this industry who said he can get you the watches from Clean, or you will be scammed.

I have given introduction of many watch manufacturers here, like ZF, AR, VS, APS, etc., I think many of you guys also have read the stories of Clean Factory I published here at https://www.susanreviews.com/2023/09/29/why-did-clean-factory-get-a-success-so-quickly/ and https://www.susanreviews.com/2024/02/17/the-development-of-clean-factory/. Clean indeed has a glorious history and also has made too many great watches for us, now let us see how this watch manufacturer started and then how it fell.

There are many clock malls in Zhanxi of Guangzhou, they had a very good business before, there were a big traffic in the past, everyone came there to get good luxury products such as watches, bags, bracelets, perfume, etc. In 2016 or 2017, a person came to Zhanxi and sold watches, at the beginning, he made the replicas of Nomos, at that time, the workshop he opened even did not have a name. Later he made Roger Dubuis Excalibur and Blancpain Fifty Fathoms, so the first product in Clean’s history is not the green Submariner 116610LV. But facing the competition of Noob in replica Blancpain Fifty Fathoms, he could not make enough money by just selling Nomos, Roger Dubuis and other unpopular watches.

He wanted to make Rolex, but at that time, Noob and AR are the boss in this area, it is hard to compete with them, however, the Rolex Submariner from both Noob and AR also has flaws, especially the bezel of the hulk Submariner 116610LV, which does not have correct green color, the pearl is too white and the bezel markers easily become black, he noticed these issues and turned to make the ceramic bezel, on the first batch of the ceramic bezel made for the Submariner, the platinum filling on the markers finally does not discolor anymore, at this time, Clean was born and only made watch parts like ceramic bezel and dial.

After being promoted, many people bought the Submariner from AR Factory, and then replaced its bezel and dial with the bezel and dial from Clean. After selling the watch parts for a period, he made the Submariner by himself, and he sold the watch under the name “ZZ”, but the Submariner from ZZF still could not compete with AR and Noob. At the same time, Clean also made the bezel for the Daytona.

ZZ continued to improve their Submariner and updated it to V3 edition, with SH3135 movement inside, but they are facing another strong competitor VS Factory, whose Submariner comes with better DD3135 movement inside. At that time, Noob has updated the Submariner to V12 and AR has updated it to V3, ZZ could not compete with Noob, AR and VS.

In April 2021, Noob got raided and closed, AR and VS were also affected. People had no where to get the Daytona, some dealers who still had Noob Daytona watches in stock sold them at high prices, watch fans needed to pay over $1110 to get a Noob Daytona, this is a ridiculous price, but people had no choice. Clean seized the opportunity and inherited the DD4130 movement from Noob, in the end of 2021, Clean published the Daytona with DD4130, the price is a bit higher than previous Noob Daytona but finally returned to be normal. After being published, their Daytona watches were immediately sold out, Clean succeeded. During the closing period of AR and VS, the stock of ZZ Submariner also sold out very quickly, after that they sold both Daytona and Submariner under name Clean. During that period, Clean also got the DD3135 movement and updated their Submariner.

One success builds upon another. Next Clean developed the DD3285 movement and published the super clone GMT-Master II, this become another best seller, now Clean nearly dominated the market of super clone Rolex, VS has been back to the business and still had a certain market share because they have DD3235 movement, many people bought VS Datejust. So in next years before the closure of Clean, it was the competition between Clean and VS in Rolex field, before Clean completed the replacement of the SH3235 with DD3235 in their Datejust, this factory got raided and closed. Now, who is the boss in super clone Rolex field? Absolutely…, you know it.

VS Factory Daytona

Clean Factory will not be back.

I always think Clean has the best Daytona replicas, unfortunately they have been closed forever. Now the best factory to get a super clone Daytona is VS, most dealers and reviewers said their Daytona is better than Clean, I do not think so, Clean has some details that are better finished. And there is another factory that has good quality Daytona replicas, we almost forget it, this factory is BT.

A new factory has appeared in the market recently, it is UFO, which is a tacky name. They made the replica Daytona 126500, some readers here have asked me about this factory, now I told you do not buy the Daytona from UFO, they claimed that they use the clone 4131 movement with free-sprung balance, that’s a good selling point, but no one knows the stability of this movement, by the way, I have checked the finish on the watch, it is not as good as that of VS Factory Daytona, not to mention in comparison with Clean. And their price is too expensive. Please check the pictures of the UFO Daytona below.

UFO Daytona

Now VS Factory holds the majority of the market share for the Daytona, while BT Factory holds a small market share for the Daytona. VS Factory is still improving the quality of the Daytona, mainly in increasing the weight of the watch, last time several months ago, I already introduced the first batch of the Daytona watches with increased weight on my blog, please check at https://www.susanreviews.com/2025/03/24/vs-factory-heavy-weight-daytona/. Today, I will make a summary of the Daytona replica watches which VS Factory is selling.

First, the Daytona with 4801 movement, which has the most affordable price, please check the movement picture below, it is a naked 4801 without any decoration.

VSF 4801

Second, the Daytona with 4130 movement made by VS Factory. There are totally nine models. The 116500 Daytona white and black models, the weight is about 140 grams. The 116518 yellow gold, 116519 gray dial and116506 ice blue three models have V1 and V2 increased weight options. The V2 edition only has weight gained on the case.

Daytona VSF V3

Third, the Daytona with 4131 movement made by VS, please check the pictures below. We can see that the Daytona models with rubber band have been upgraded to V2, which has gain weight on the case. These Daytona replicas, whose genuine models are made with precious metals, now have been upgraded to V3, the V3 edition has gain weight both on the case and bracelet. I measured the weight of the V3, please check the last picture, it is about

VSF Daytona 4131
VSF V3 Daytona Weight

Conclusion

1.VS has three types of Daytona selling at the same time, the one with 4801 movement, the Daytona with regular weight, the Daytona with increased weight.

2.For the latest V3 edition, VS Factory adds weight both on the case and bracelet, but the watch feels very comfortable when wearing on hand, not like the Daytona made by other factories that has been added too much weight on the case, the case head is too heavy, causing it to feel like it’s slipping down when wearing.

3.Up to now, no one has reported any cases of the peeling off issue on the increased weight Daytona from VS Factory.

I do hope VS Factory continues to improve the dial quality of their Daytona, such as the hands finish, or a new factory will appear in the market to replace Clean’s position to compete with VS, I would like to see.

About Nautilus 5711 Replicas

In the past years, 3K Factory has dominated the market of Nautilus 5711 replicas with the super clone 324 movement, a lot of people directly ordered the Nautilus 5711 from 3K, some people, seeking superior quality, paid extra to replace its dial with SW dial, but this part of people also needed to order one Nautilus replica watch from 3K Factory first, and then do the dial modification. So, 3K was the only choice in the past. However, with the expiration of the exclusive movement agreement, now every factory can use this super clone 324 movement, just weeks ago, some new faces already appeared in the market and published the replicas Nautilus 5711, which were claimed to have better quality than 3K. These new faces include BBF, DDF and DF. Every of these new factories seem to know the weakness of the 3K Nautilus 5711, BBF is the most popular among these three, they did dial improvements, many reviewers said that BBF uses the SW Dial on 5711, actually this is not true, I compared both and found the difference between BBF dial and SW dial. DDF currently is doing upgrade on the watch and about to release the V2. While D Factory changed the movement and developed the free sprung balance, but with no weights. So currently the 5711 being mostly talked about is the one from BBF, many reviewers said it is much better than the one made by 3K.

Well, I do not agree. Perhaps in some details, BBF looks better, but a watch consists of a lot of parts that need to be assembled perfectly by an experienced watch master, BBF 5711 can not be better than 3K 5711 in every aspect, it is impossible. If you take both watches in hand and you will find some details on 3K are still better. A friend of mine also got BBF 5711 for his clients, but several his clients finally asked him to change to 3K 5711. So, sometimes when a factory said their watch is better than the one that has been in the market for years, do not rush to buy it, especially the watch from a new factory.

However, the appearance of these watches is a big challenge to 3K Factory. They will absolutely continue to make improvements on the Nautilus 5711, so currently it is not the right time to make the purchase, besides, I think 3K Factory will also improve the dial and movement engravings in future, if they won’t, they will lose this market, so I really expect a perfect version from 3K Factory.

The following pictures show the Nautilus 5711 from BBF.

BBF Nautilus 5711
BBF Nautilus 5711 Blue
BBF Nautilus 5711 Crown
BBF Nautilus 5711 Movement
BBF Nautilus 5711 Clasp

VS Factory Day-Date

VS Factory just published the Day-Date replica watch, and currently only this blue one is available, but my impression about this watch is it is too expensive.

In the market, if you decide to make the Day-Date replicas, you are facing several strong competitors, including GM, QF, THB, CBD and RC, as I mentioned before, the Day-Date from THB and CBD are not good, if do not consider them, you still need to think about how to beat the other threes, this is very hard, as far as I know, the Day-Date from GM, QF and RC has been accepted by most people, especially after the review on RC Day-Date at https://www.susanreviews.com/2025/07/28/rc-day-date-part-ii/, I highly recommend the Day-Date made by RC.

Now how about this Day-Date from VS Factory? First, its quality is good. Especially its bezel, which seems to have inherited the same improvement VS Factory just made on the bezel of their Datejust, the bezel reflection looks brighter, some people said VS coated real Platinum on the bezel, some said they just coated Rhodium, whatever, the bezel is more gen-like now. Second, this Day-Date from VS uses a real super clone 3255 movement, which is developed by DD movement factory. While the movement in the Day-Date made by other factories is SH3255, which is considered to be not a real super clone 3255 by a lot of watch fans, they think the SH3255 in both QF Day-Date and RC Day-Date is just modified on basis of the 3135. However, the SH3255 is also very stable and reliable, it is hidden behind a solid case back, I think it does not matter whether you choose a DD3255 or a SH3255.

This Day-Date from VS Factory has a weight of 146 grams, which is even lighter than the Day-Date from GM, not to mention compared with the Day-Date from RC. And the price of this VS Day-Date is only about 60 USD cheaper than the RC Day-Date, will you choose the Day-Date from VS? If I were you, I won’t, at least for now it is not the right time. Genuine Rolex Day-Date is made with precious metals like platinum or gold, so it is very heavy, the Day-Date made by RC Factory is 208 grams, which is very close to genuine weight, while this VS Day-Date is nearly 70 grams lighter than the genuine, this is a big difference in weight. So, to buy a quality Day-Date, I still suggest you buy from GM, QF or RC.

Will VS Factory make the Day-Date with gain weight? I think there is a strong possibility, after all their Day-Date has movement advantage when being compared with other manufacturers, this is a great chance for VS to penetrate the market. Currently I think people will still choose the Day-Date with heavier weight, after all their attention has been focused on the gain weight area for years, it won’t easily shift, the weight of a Rolex replica watch is now a more significant factor for people than in the past.

VS Day-Date
VSF Day-Date
VS Factory Day-Date
Replica Rolex Day-Date Blue
VSF Day-Date Blue
Day-Date VS Crown
Day-Date VS Case Back
Day-Date VS Bracelet
Day-Date VS Clasp